Langley Council Candidate Arrested Over His Pot Dispensary

Langley City’s council race just got more interesting with candidate Randy Caine being charged with possession of marijuana for the purposes of trafficking.

Caine, 57, owns the Langley Medical Marijuana Dispensary.

Advocates for the downtown facility that sells pot to people with Health Canada authorizations to use medical marijuana presented a petition at Monday night’s City council meeting calling for a pilot dispensary project.

On Tuesday, Caine was contacted by Sgt. Jason Wilde about the charge and asked to meet at a coffee shop where he was given the arrest warrant and a promise to appear.

“That’s interesting timing,” Caine told the Langley Advance.

He is scheduled to appear in court Dec. 2 in Surrey charged with possession exceeding three kilograms for the purpose of trafficking.

On July 19, the RCMP raided the dispensary on Fraser Highway, seizing more than eight pounds of marijuana, and marijuana products including cookies and candy. The police also did raids on dispensaries and compassion clubs in Burnaby, Courtenay and Chilliwack

“These sorts of dispensaries are illegal and, despite what some may profess, have not been supported by the courts,” said Langley RCMP Supt. Derek Cooke. “Marihuana is a very carefully regulated drug and the law does not allow for an individual to determine whom he or she believes should be able to buy it. People with a legitimate medical need can be licenced to use marihuana. They can then grow their own, or easily purchase the drug from the government’s licenced medical supplier and have it conveniently delivered to their door.”

Cooke said the police maintain that many of the dispensary customers were not licensed by Health Canada and he questions the source of the marijuana.

“There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the drugs being sold at the dispensary came from illegal marihuana grow operations, and anyone who has been impacted by such an operation knows what a blight they have been on our community,” Cooke said.

Caine said he was told that if the dispensary provides any marijuana, he will be arrested and views the charge as an “attempt to intimidate or scare me off.”

“I don’t really believe it’s going to go to court,” he said.

While angry about the timing of the legal move, Caine said this could end up galvinizing many City residents who have given in to voter apathy in the past and could have a significant impact on the current council’s chances of getting re-elected.

Top cop says Langley marijuana dispensary bought from illegal grow ops

By Dan Ferguson, Langley Times

An RCMP claim that the Langley medical marijuana dispensary obtained product from illegal pot growing operations has drawn a strongly-worded denial from the owner.

The charge was made in a written statement issued Tuesday (Oct. 26) by Superintendent Derek Cooke, the officer in charge of the Langley RCMP detachment.

“There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the drugs being sold at the dispensary came from illegal marijuana grow operations, and anyone who has been impacted by such an operation knows what a blight they have been on our community,” Cooke said.

The statement went on to refer to the “black market drug trade” without quoting Cooke directly.

Dispensary operator Randy Caine denies any involvement with the big grow ops that supply drug traffickers.

“That’s a bold-faced lie,” Caine said.

“I find this really insulting.”

The dispensary, Caine said, only bought from small “mom and pop” growers who signed exclusive contracts promising they would only grow for the dispensary.

The Superintendent is well aware of that, Caine said.

“I spent an hour and 45 minutes with Derek Cooke a year ago last August and I showed him all the paperwork.”

A copy of the contract provided to the Times shows the dispensary was paying growers $1800 a pound, an amount Caine says is well below black market rates.

On Tuesday, Caine, who is running for a seat on Langley City council, was charged with possession of a controlled substance in an amount exceeding three kilograms for the purpose of trafficking.

The charge related to the RCMP raid on the Langley dispensary on July 19 when officers seized more than eight pounds of marijuana and what the RCMP release describes as “a large quantity of marijuana products, including cookies and candies.”

Caine shut down the dispensary after the raid, then re-opened it.

He shut it down a second time after he was charged Tuesday, saying police warned him he could go to jail if he didn’t.

His first court appearance is scheduled for Dec. 5 after the municipal election.

The RCMP press release said investigators believe a number of the dispensary customers were not licenced by Health Canada to use the drug.

“Marijuana is a very carefully regulated drug and the law does not allow for an individual to determine whom he or she believes should be able to buy it,” Cooke said.

“People with a legitimate medical need [can]grow their own, or easily purchase the drug from the government’s licenced medical supplier and have it conveniently delivered to their door,” the RCMP superintendent added.

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Randy Caine charged, pot dispensary doors closed

Dan Ferguson, Langley Times

The day after Langley City council rejected a request for support from the medical marijuana dispensary operated by Randy Caine, Caine was charged with one count of “possession for the purpose of trafficking.”

Caine, a candidate for City council in the current municipal election, said he was phoned Tuesday (Oct. 25) and invited to visit the local RCMP detachment, where he was formally charged and released on a promise to appear before a judge in December.

“There were no handcuffs or anything like that,” Caine said.

Caine said he closed the dispensary because he was warned if he continued to operate, he ran the risk of imprisonment.

“I was told if I opened it, they would come and arrest me.”

The premises have now been converted into his campaign office, Caine said.

Caine called the timing of the charges, in the middle of an election campaign, “outlandish.”

“I find it interesting that the charges would come up now [almost four months after the dispensary was raided],” Caine said.

“I think this is a desire to discredit me.”

While Mayor Peter Fassbender has insisted neither he nor council had anything to do with the criminal prosecution, Caine has a different view.

“I believe it’s become very personal between the mayor and I.”

He predicts the move against him and the dispensary will motivate supporters to vote against the incumbents.

“I can’t believe how insulated this council is from the community,” Caine said.

“It’s political suicide.”

Caine hinted the issue could become larger than a simple possession case, stating the B.C. Civil Liberties Association sent an observer to the Monday council meeting, which rejected a petition calling for a pilot dispensary program along the lines of the Vancouver safe injection site, which continued to operate while the courts decided if it was legal. A recent Supreme Court of Canada decision allowed the site to keep operating.

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  1. Anonymous on

    Stephen Harper has a son who was born in 1996. What if, at his current age if 15 years old, what if Harper junior were to be caught puffing a joint with his friends? Wouldn’t his PM daddy rush to the rescue and have any criminal charges differed?

    This Omnibus Crime Legislation will be selectively applied. If you have the money to afford a lawyer, the law won’t apply to you. If you don’t have the cash, you’re a criminal.

    Criminals have the money to afford excellent legal representation. Canadian medical cannabis consumers with severe health issues and permanent disabilities don’t have that money for legal representation.

    Does Harper really want to fill Canadian prisons with disabled people who consume medical cannabis? Will those prisons provide the health care services those patients require, and at a far greater cost to the tax payer? What if you have federal medical marijuana exemption and go to jail, could you still legally smoke your medicine in jail? Currently, there’s nothing in the MMAR application that prevents anyone with a criminal record from applying for exemption.

    Or why don’t we just arrest and imprison everybody? Every single person has at some point in their lives committed an action that could be interpenetrated as a crime. Even babies are born into sin according to the bible.

    Next stop, the prison planet, Canadian detention continent, right next to cell block USA.

  2. Guitarod on

    It is a Police state out there. War on drugs.
    There must be a humane way to deal with drugs, such as treating it like the social problem that it is. Pot users both medicinally and recreationaly should be the least of anyone’s worries.
    The government will never control us so why waste the energy & resources.
    Are there not more serious crimes to investigate.
    Let me see: gangs, organized crime, terror threats,
    hard drug importers, wife beaters, child diddlers, sex offenders, & violent offenders to name a few.
    How much of the Omnibus crime budget goes towards these crimes vs marijuana prohibition.
    Non of this makes any sense to ordinary Canadians, many who happen to prefer pot over other drugs like alcohol. Prohibition laws are based on 100% lies.
    Any idiot should be able to see the injustice perpetrated against us. While our gov’t crusades against human rights in other countries, they continue to persecute a good majority of their own people for making a personal choice regarding their drug of choice. Could seven million plus, Canadians be wrong. That’s a lot of potential votes.
    Harper, laugh while it lasts. We will then have to reverse all the damage done by your ideology.

  3. Anonymous on

    First and foremost, I’ve met Randy Caine before. A friend of mine of greater than 20 years who knows Randy had introduced me to him, specifically in regards to the issues I was having in procuring my federal medical marijuana exemption so that I might legally consume cannabis for the purpose of symptoms related to multiple sclerosis. Randy is a kind and honest man, and certainly not some stereotypical drug kingpin. He’s a hippie at heart, a businessman, and a true Canadian.

    But as for those numbers I was speaking of, they stem from an article in the October 28th 2011 edition of the Vancouver Province newspaper. In the article written by Mike Raptis, there is reference that Randy’s dispensary had approximately 250 customers at its peak. According to Health Canada regulations, a designated grower can only produce for a maximum of two patients. So, to service 250 individuals, regardless of federal exemption status or not, 125 growers would be needed. Though I don’t know how many growers supplied Randy’s dispensary, I would know it to be less than a dozen. Would the government, the police or the public want greater than 100 grow ops running simultaneously that serve only a couple hundred patients? What if bars, taverns and clubs were forced to abide by some senseless government legislation that insisted they cannot serve alcohol to more than half a dozen customers at once? Would you want a bar on the corner of every block to service the insatiable demand for alcohol? Or would you tell government that there is an inherent senselessness to these rules?

    So that begs the question, how much cannabis can 250 patients consume? According to Health Canada, the average patient needs approximately 1 to 3 grams per day of raw marijuana bud. That means with 250 patients, Randy would have had to provided between 250 to 750 grams of marijuana per day to his customers. Usually sold for $10 per gram, that equates to $2500-$7500 in daily sales, minus $1800 for the initial purchase from growers and other related business expenses. But most medical cannabis consumers, myself included, will usually purchase 2 to 4 weeks worth of medical cannabis from our local dispensary once every 4 to 6 weeks. And as the government, along with the RCMP, really expect some housebound paraplegic with severe spinal cord injury will miraculously rise from their bed to begin growing, tending and harvesting a basement full of plants? Does anyone think that patient near blind from glaucoma will be able to grow their own medicine? What of the poor soul who has less than three months to live, yet is expected to build and maintain their own grow op, providing they can obtain their doctors permission first of course. Does that make any sense?

    And though it’s not the primary focus of Randy’s current legal predicament, there is that very real impossibility of procuring federal exemption status. I have MS, doctors refuse to treat my symptoms with conventional pharmaceutical medications, therefore I treat myself with medical cannabis, and with incredibly positive results I might add. Of the few dozen doctors I have seen, not a single one of them will even consider endorsing my federal exemption status. They won’t even prescribed me cannabis derived medications, perhaps for fear that I might try to smoke a bottle full of pills. Not to mention how apparently the government bud, growing by Prairie Plant Systems in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (Canada’s premier Pot province, not British Colombia, could’ve fooled me), how that single strain of green is considered ditch weed.

    It’s kind of funny if you look at the whole situation objectively; the government creates a program for the people, doctors are appointed as gatekeepers, but doctors cannot endorse patients because their medical college tells them not to. Government then awards a growing contract to one inexperienced company, allowing them to produce a substandard and inferior product. When the free market attempts to fill that void the government has purposefully created, they’re labeled as criminals for doing so. And when the patient, the one for whom the MMAR program was specifically intended, when they can’t find a single doctor to endorse their application, whether it be for professional, medical, legal or undefinable reasons, the patient then must become a criminal in treatment their better health. All the meanwhile, our government continues to enforce this notion of mandatory minimum sentencing upon anyone having anything to do marijuana. Perhaps government’s reluctance to fix the MMAR program is in the hopes of creating criminal cannabis consumers who will soon come to occupy Prime Minister Harper’s new prison industry, an industry born of legal persecution for one’s health and contradictory government regulations in a mismanaged system. Perhaps Mr. Harper should read Joseph Heller’s book ‘Catch 22’. The painted yourself into a corner, damned if you do, damned if you don’t metaphor within that novel holds eerie similarities to what the current conservative administration is doing to Canadian cannabis consumers. It honestly makes the notion of George Orwell’s book ‘1984’ a more appealing reality live in.

    Honestly, it’s issues like this that make me glad I smoke pot. I see the absurdity and sigh “I am so glad I didn’t take the advice of that nurse, to just drink a couple or three bottles of wine every evening, the exact same thing her father-in-law does to cope with the pains of his MS. Alcohol would piss me off far too much, and especially when I read articles such as these. I’d much rather fire up my vaporizer and laugh at the lunacy of it for a little while, then take the dog for a jog, something I couldn’t do for years, until I started consuming medical cannabis.”

  4. Anonymous on

    At $1800.00 Lb. that works out to approximately $112.00 an Ounce. Street value for good quality is over $180.00. (on a good day) Usually gang profit.
    Considering the problems in growing this fine product, very little, it is likely that an OAP or disabled person could upgrade their income to better take care of themselves while providing a valuable service to those in need. A win – win situation.
    The problems are caused by those who would dictate what we put into our body, for any reason.
    The medical uses of this plant, that has been used as a healing herb since man found that by using it on a cut it would speed healing, are widely known & I might say well tested.
    I agree with Randy that Langley should at least consider the notion of a trial for a medical marijuana dispensary. Get the truth out! Yes limit the # of outlets in any given area, zoning restrictions perhaps,
    Just think – – all this waste of time & money could be spent playing baseball and providing the housing & care to the less fortunate of us.
    Rock On Randy

  5. Anonymous on

    Is it just me but why is that every singlm advance the pot community makes:large small or microscopic has ever made and probably will ever make gets shot down. Maybe its because the marijuana saints all end up getting caught with large loads of weed or cash that could not be reasonably considered “for personal use “. This is particularly so in the compassion club circuit where the mercy bringers are rountinely caught with over the top amounts of pot, cash or both.

    Why point the finger at the 1% Greedy Financial people when the impulse of basic greed is well represented in the Cannabis Community the remaining 99% feel so at home with to the point they become just another bunch of greedy smugglers out for themselves.

    I can’t see this situation improving even if pot was legalized. In fact it would only get worse. I never read a story about how a Compassion Club owner gave some poor cripple a free dose of medicine, no- I only read about how they tried to vend a few extra kilos of medicine off after hours to an equally as disgusting undercover cop waving cash under his or her nose.

    Grow your own or get lost is all I can offer as a solution. I no longer think legalization, decrim whatever would make a damn bit of difference to greedy pot dealers. They would sell black market weed right outside the front door of any future Govt bonded cannabis retail establishment and do even more collateral damage to the movement than they are already doing. Its disgusting we either applaud them or ignore their excesses