Synthetic Cannabis Mimic Found In Herbal Incense

Health officials claim synthetic substance JWH-018 is four to five times more potent than THC

A chemical substance first synthesized in 1995 in a university lab in the US for purely experimental purposes is now being used by young people around the world to legally achieve a marijuana-like high and is causing alarm among health officials in Europe.

The synthetic substance, JWH-018, a cannabinoid receptor agonist from the aminoalkylindole family, has been found in herbal mixtures sold legally under various 'spice' names, such as Spice Gold and Spice Yucatan Fire. The mixture is sold as incense, but is smoked to get high.

Germany's Drug Commissioner Sabine Bätzing has vowed to make the sale of Spice mixtures illegal in Germany by the end of January, by modifying the Controlled Substances Act. She says Spice can have negative side effects and be addictive. Switzerland, Austria and the Netherlands have already banned Spice.

As Spice grew in popularity over the past year, several laboratories tried unsuccessfully to deduce what ingredient was responsible for the high, with one expert suggesting it was simply a placebo effect. But in December, THC Pharm, a Frankfurt, Germany-based company that makes medicines from cannabis, was able to detect JWH-018 in several packets of Spice.

Christian Steup, a medical doctor and pharmacist in charge of quality control at THC Pharm who supervised the analysis, told Chemistry World that he was able to detect JWH-018 while bigger labs failed because he had synthesised the substance about two years ago and all information was still on the company computer.

The substance, which he said can be bought from producers in China, is added to the Spice herbal mixture. Quantities of JWH-018 in Spice packets tested varied widely, from as little as 0.2 per cent of the total mixture to as much as 3 per cent, Steup says.

JWH-018 is four to five times more potent than tetrahydrocannabinol, more commonly known as THC, which is the main psychoactive substance in cannabis, Steup says, adding that JWH-018 'is fascinating because the chemical structure does not look at all like THC, but it produces the same effects.'

The chemist who designed (and lent his initials to) JWH-18, John W Huffman, an organic chemist at Clemson University in South Carolina, told Chemistry World that his goal had been to make a simple compound to study structure-receptor relationships. The compound interacts with both cannabis receptors. The first batch was actually made by an undergraduate student working under a post-doc. 'It is really easy to make,' Huffman said.

JWH-018 has not been licensed anywhere in the world for medical applications and little is known about the effect on humans, as not even pre-clinical studies have been to determine potential toxicity. Steup says he is inclined to believe it is not toxic, and that he would be more concerned about any lingering impurities from the production process.

Huffman says, 'I don't have a clue.' But noting the similar highs produced by THC and JWH-018, he says: 'You cannot overdose on THC. You can forget your name or where you are, but too much THC will not kill you.'

Asked whether he sees any potential medical applications for JWH-018, he said: 'No. It's like LSD, the only thing it is good for is getting you high.'

- Article from Chemistry World on January 15, 2009.

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So basically, you know everything you are getting in a bag of weed? Absolutely impossible. In fact, outside of THC (levels of which vary) you have no clue what other pollutants are in a bag of weed. Due to what can sometimes be extensive travel, with absolutely no health standards any number of pollutants can and always are in bags of weed. I can understand a lack of interest in a product, but comments like that make me terribly sad to be part of the same crowd as a stoner of such low depth of thought. I love smoking herb, but there is no sense in knocking something without first knowing what you are saying.

thats false in some peoples worlds

what about people like me who know where the pot is cultivated and everything thats done to it. i live in the northwest of america and there is never laced pot just plant. so some of us know what we are getting....

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yall are dumb if u eat it it will get u high u dumb asses u cant od on it so u buy the pure JWH-018 nd make the in high doses!!!!!!!!!!!! one kid sayes smokahs fuck that i love smokein weed but is i can take it in a pill i would cut down on smokein nd take pills i got i job where i would get fired for smelling like it if i could just take it in a pill its all good hit me up dcthepunk420@aim.com

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Say what??? Was that supposed to be coherent. If it was then you are definitely smoking far too much weed!!! Some is cool, too much is not!

ay yo i was wasted when i

ay yo i was wasted when i wrote that lol but yea jwh-018 isnt bad man yall are pussy as lil wayne sayed "like it and love it"

Wow! This guy is like the

Wow! This guy is like the worst advertising ever. Please, anyone who is tempted to try but scared away because it will make you think, act, talk, (etc) like this guy just disregard his post. I think he was dropped as a child... often.

you need to learn to spell

you need to learn to spell you dumb ass!!!! no one knows what you are trying to say

Really?

I have to agree with the person below me. I dont think that's just weed you are buying. hah I'd quit everything except for school

You are obviously seriously uneducated

about this subject, JWH-018 and any of its sister analogues (073, 200, 250...etc.) are very much controversial as to toxicity. I make my own blends personally by laying the substance onto herbal mixtures. The 018 differs vastly from the 073 and 200. You are a fucking idiot for recommending that people ingest the pure powdered substance and this statement proves how uneducated you are on the subject. JWH-018 is HIGHLY anxiogenic (for your simple mind, that means it causes panic attack like effects in high doses and can lead to MANY side effects and symptoms including DEATH!!!) I personally have overdosed on this substance as I was the guinea pig for the purple flake brand. And let me tell you, it was one of the worst drug experiences I have ever undergone. I enjoyed overdosing on heroin MUCH more if that tells you anything. Now, the 073 and 200 are actually anxiolytic meaning they work to calm the central nervous system, I recommend looking for these if you are going to go the powder route. i have eaten the powder of these two but would NEVER NEVER NEVER do the same with the 018. To give an example 0.25mg can and most likely WILL KILL YOU. Its a very uncomfortable kind of death at that. In moderation, I see nothing wrong with the 073 and 200 but with idiots like this and others that are actually dying from the 018, ALL will soon be banned worldwide. Over 15 countries (and KANSAS, lol) have outlawed this substance with Poland going as far as outlawing every herb listed on the packets as well. And furthermore, these chemicals are technically controlled under the Federal Analog Act. Although I'm sure your simple mind couldn't reach to understand half of what i just posted but this is just a disclaimer for those that may dimwitted enough to follow your ill-conceived advice. I hope you grow up one day, but maybe that's asking for too much. So for now, quit advocating something you obviously have never even done yourself to others people that may be foolhardy enough as to actually follow your lame-brained assertations. Peace: tathata jahada

And as for potency

1 gram is usually spread to 30 or more grams of material. Its (the powder) effective in doses so low that 99% of scales you'd buy from a head shop won't even register the amount. 0.02 is a round about dose. And my 0.25 death estimate is a VERY high estimate. A lot less can kill you.

lethal dose

Dude, I've gone way over 2mg, and yeah I had a little anxiety, but other than that I felt great. Though my friends that took a slightly lower dose than myself complained that it was too much. I guess it's a preference thing. Furthermore,If you want real information regarding the safety of a chemical substance, I say to you that's why god made an MSDS when he created my new found friend. The ld50 is much higher than our mr.education here is claiming. Now I do not recommend that anyone take this information and chisel it in stone. I do recommend you look at the MSDS.

thanks for the good info. i

thanks for the good info. i knew kansas was trying to get it illegal but i hadn't heard it had happened yet. i read one news report that said K2 got raided by police. not sure if that's true or not.

What did you read this off

What did you read this off of Wikipedia ....Overdosing on purple flake?? Maybe you yourself smoked too much. Maybe before you call other people stupid you should do some research yourself. It is one of the most popular brands in Baton Rouge, and YOU should know this seeing as how you TRIED unsuccessfully to get in the industry.

Took 2mg and I'm still

Took 2mg and I'm still kicking; no panic attacks here. By the way, this is probably not healthy at all.

You are obviously seriously uneducated

Actually, Huffman (creator of JWH) says that just like THC it is impossible
to overdose. Stop lying to people you dumb fuck, there has NEVER been a reported
death on Jwh-018 and .25mg cant kill you thats like .00025 grams. I did .3 grams
which is 30mg and I felt WONDERFUL! I have done Jwh-018 many many times. So before you start posting bullshit and lies, do your research and look up a few
more big words in attempt to sound intelligent and leave the accusations to the
true intelligentsia

Guess again...

30mg is not .3g

It's .03g

You are just as bad as "Mr. Education" lol.

ya this shits heavy,

ya this shits heavy, overdosing on this shit sucks its prolly one of the worst panic attacks anyone can have lol, but i've been doin a lil research on this stuff because my local head shop is now selling it and idk about this stuff you just have to find the right kind and even then its not even that legit some bags are skimpy and some are more potent then others (im talkin bout the same brands and types) but i've been smoking this stuff for a lil now and idk wat to think about it, the whole fact of being able to overdose and potentially die on it has me a lil worried but i guess just don't take it that far ha

JWH-018

He is correct.
Had a friend try smoking a well know brand herbal mixture with JHW-018 this weekend. Result> panic attack follow by, uncontrolled high heart rate (140bpm+), chest pains, loss of breathing control,and vision problems. Had to be rushed to the hospital,doctors did not know about JHW-018, but were able to lower his heart rate to 90bpm after 3 hours. Kept him over night, almost died. Two days later still having panic attacks and vision problems.
Beware it can harm you.

dude actually it is YOU who

dude actually it is YOU who are totally wrong tathata jahada. .25 jwh is not going to kill a human being? what are you a fear mongerer or something? my friend got really drunk and snorted .9 of jwh 018 99 percent pure yeah .9 literally and he just had a panic attack and went to the hospital. nothing close to death, very far from it.

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Don't mean to offend u but what the hell were u saying. U didn't make 2 much sense. comment again so we can all understand what u r saying. Thanks

hey fuck you. what about the

hey fuck you. what about the people who get on probation and have to smake this shit? i prefer dank as much as anybody but p.e.p pourri is a great alternative to marijuana and your drug test will be clean.

im on probation and iv been

im on probation and iv been smoken serenity. does it show up in drug tests? iv never hurd of it showing up but im just freaking out i guess. i need a little peace of mind.

Jwh-018 Taste

Jwh-018 is completely flavorless and does not have any after effects.
Coming down is smooth, theres no headaches, no tiredness, no confusion.
It is the best high money can buy and it is the smoothest

I completely agree. I now

I completely agree. I now have proabtion for a year & will have to use it. But I feel the SAME WAY!

i wrk in an adault tore an sell fake weed all day long.....

the store i wrk at drug tests me an ive failed twice, but im a really hard wrker so they havnt fired me YET, thank god but i sell this fake weed ("herbal incense") all day long! i work right across the street from a army base an the soldiers are eatin this shit up! but out of what ive tried, we sell this "k2 summit" an it is very potent an has made few get nautous and dizzy. but thats only if you smk too much i smkd a blunt an got sooo high! the feeling of this compared to weed is sooo similar (if smkd in moderation) it is great, i would recomend it to anyone! an we also sell this "herbal incense" called gonjah made by smoke clear its ok not near as strong as k2 but lastes up to 8 hrs. it comes in many flavors but alot of our customers dont like it compared to the k2. but i hope this helps anyone who cant smk weed legally........ but id like to see if they have the jwh-018 cemical that was mentioned in your "spice" artical. thank you an i hear by 2010 ky is holding a vote to make medicinal marijuana legal ??? i hope so an i'll b in line to vote YES lol

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Maybe you forgot CC was a

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there's nothing as sweet as sensi...it has always been the 'natural' way to go...i wouldnt smoke any substitutes!

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i bet you would smoke it if you were on felony probation and u coulndt smoke weed

I have just resently got

I have just resently got arrested for possesion 2 weeks ago and have already had an offence on my record. So all of these people talking about just smoke the real thing have never been in a spot where they can't smoke at all. And I have not smoked for 2 weeks and it really really sucks. So you have to understand when you hear about some stuff that is 4-5 times more potent than THC and dosnt show up then you are so happy! I plan on getting this JWH-018 straight and adding more to some k2 or spice as soon as I can get my hands on some!

Where??

I also cannot smoke and I love K2. where can you get the JWH018. this k2 is so expensive.

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dude ... i had the same issue, i got arrested and I get tested all the time at work now, as im in the health field. Have you used the incense and passed a drug test? Even though its legal, i'm just freaked out to try it bc a failed drug test would end my career.

Someone is wrong somewhere

Someone is wrong somewhere in this article.
If you browse reviews for the spice product, I haven't found one yet that claims it is more powerful than pot. Quite the opposite reviews actually.
If health officials are claiming it 4x stronger, and the users say it sucks by comparison... don't you think someone ought to be corrected?

Spice products

I am from Holland and i smoke pot for 25 years.
I can tell you that some of the spice products are defenitly stronger then pot and the high last at least 2 times longer!!
But i agree on one thing , I do prefer a good old weed !!
Because the spice gives you a big hangover and headache the next day !
cheers!!

I smoke this stuff because

I smoke this stuff because it replicates real weed and I have to piss in a cup for work. It doesn't show up on drug tests. I can tell you that It's actually stronger than reg and just as strong (if not stronger) as top quality KB. Only draw back is you build up a tolerance fast if you smoke it all the time, unlike good weed. It tasts like crap if you get the wrong one though.

question

Hey do you know if anyone has ever failed a drug test because of this? Im in the final year of an extensive medical training, was cuffed for purchasing, and im on a 1 strike and im out, random testing clause. Im scared to try this legal stuff but maybe you can say something to unscare me lol

you're golden.

Yes, you can smoke any type of incense (serenity now, king kong, voo doo, etc) and pass a drug test. Piss tests mainly test for THC, cocaine, and methanphetamine. Herbal incense contains JWH, which has the same canabannoids and molecular structure as THC, and effects the same part of the brain, but there is no tests for it. You're good to go.

August 15, 2010
8:00 p.m.
Texas

You make incense??

not true!! my customers have complained that my blends that include jwh073 are piss testing false postitive wich means positive until further lab work is done. but if you are in drug court (and so many incense smokers are). A false positive can mean a sanction or a weekend in jail or if more than once they might even revoke you. so definatly make sure the blend you are smoking does not include jwh073.....although in my opinion the best blends have both 073 and 018'

anyways i got the 018 cheap: ra_jaherbal@yahoo.com

(please only incense makers contact me for jwh018. I don't wan't inexperienced people buying from me and smoking pure and ending up in the hospital......bad business!!....so incense makers only!!! www.jwh-018-usa.com

p.s. also watch for people cutting there stuff with more harmful shit than the chemical itself(fiberglass being one i've heard of)!!!

listen... theyre saying its

listen... theyre saying its stronger because they can make it stronger if then want to. they can control how much of jwh-018 they put in. so they can LOAD it on you and get you half-retarded or they can give u the bearable amount.

I smoked Ocean Breeze just a

I smoked Ocean Breeze just a few days ago...and hell yea it was stronger than pot. That shit scared the shit out of me, made me think I was going to have a heart attack. I could feel my body going WOA I am out of control here, this shit is to much. Then they go and tell me to try "SPICE" because it's even stronger than Ocean Breeze! If Spice is stonger than Ocean Breeze than you bet your ass it's stronger than weed.

ocean breeze sux

ocean breeze sux puff is the stuff u need fuck the rest puffs yhe best.

Puff is FAR from the stuff..

Puff is FAR from the stuff.. When Puff first originally came out it was wonderful.. Quality went down horribly.. You can smoke pure damiana and you get a better high. Puff isn't the stuff.. Try another brand. They continually keep on changing the formula so MS Police who is gunning for them wont catch a clue. Now. Tell the truth..

I can't find "Puff" but I

I can't find "Puff" but I can find the ocean or bay "breeze" almost all the time and have to say it works pretty good and also have to say it is the best out of a lot of diffrent blends in the market that I have tried. 1 complaint I do have is the price of the products but some do work and you don't have to worry about a test and loosing your job, atleast intill the Government starts testing.

ocean breeze

Can you please get back to me and let me know where you buy the ocean breeze from

Herbal Alternatives sells Ocean breeze, it sucks there.

Try Chillin' Blueberry flavored at Ya-Ya's on E. Pass Rd.

I have never seen this stuff

I have never seen this stuff before so I looked at buying some to try. I was shocked to find that it cost just as much as the real thing. Given it's high price I'll stick to the real deal.

No its actually much

No its actually much cheaper. 1g of JWH18 is $100, thats like getting Pure 5xTHC. So if your bud is 15%THC by volume(which is dank)it would only have to be 3% JWH18 to be as effective.

So at 3% by volume a Gram of JWH18 can be spread out over 33grams of whatever it is you want to smoke, at least.

Do anyone know how it looks

Do anyone know how it looks like? tast and color and texture. is it white powder?

JWH18

You can buy JWH-18 at www.herbavigor.com and yes it is a white powder.

That's the shittiest website

That's the shittiest website Ive ever seen. Whoever made it should have their nipples ripped off.

white powder!!!!!!!

the jwh looks like coke... smoke to much it will make u trip the fuck out... smoke less than 0.1 ull be fine..

I'm very tired of smoking

I'm very tired of smoking this harsh inscense. I totally agree that it's no different than smoking dandilions with pot resin (if you smoke too much then more like pine needles...), H-A-R-S-H. I tried vaporizing with the V-Tower Extreme but that's just not going to cut it, I've only found one blend (Yucatan Fire) that actually vaps but YF is really not that great.

So, (I know, clueless) how does one ingest JWH-18 in powder form? The previous post mentions smoking it, but in what manner? Wouldn't it fall through a screen? I suppose one could snort it, has anyone tried this?

SWIM said that while it is

SWIM said that while it is harsher to smoke it yields a stronger effect than most qualities of mj (with only grade A dank being better). The taste is tolerable. It is harsher to smoke but requires less hits. Eating a whole tub of icecream when high? Hate feeling like everybody around you is an undercover cop when you get super high? This will not give you those effects. Just because something is synthetic means absolutely nothing as far as its quality. Nature can be just as toxic as any man made chemical.

In this same article you hear "The effects are very similar to THC" multiple times. Then at the end you hear "It is probably only good for getting high". Reading between these lines reveals quite the contradiction. If you can't see this for the propaganda it is then you are blind.

Most Synthetics Are No Worse Than Cannabis

there is nothing wrong with synthetic cannabinoids. it doesn't make sense to me why some people favor naturally biosynthesized chemicals over chemicals synthesized by people. some of the synthetics may be stronger but so what? there is obvious medical benefits that come with the synthetic cannabinoids just as there a benefits with synthetic THC (dronabinol) and the synthetic nabilone (brand name Cesamet). hopefully these will stay legal as most of them are probably no more harmful than regular THC, so they pose no harm and are not physically addictive. as a pain patient and someone with anxiety and depression issues who has experienced some of the JWH and CP synthetics I can attest to the medicinal properties of them. unfortunately current laws regarding substances that are meant for human ingestion are so meddling and draconian that it hurts consumers. I hope people use these responsibly medically and recreationally. we don't need any more anti-drug hysteria.

JWH-18

Sorry bro, but what I got at herbavigor.com was white. and I am a seasoned pot smoker and it got me higher than regular weed. I haven't had the "laughs" from pot for years. But about 25 mg of JWH from there made me laugh like as if I were crazy. That only happened the first few times on weed then it never happened for about 22 years. But it happened again with JWH-18.

Herbavigor has another new cannibinoid which is supposedly even more potent than JWH-18. I still suggest that you try the JWH-18 first. And let's see if you think that it is something "less" than weed; you'll find out it is better.

JWH-18

Keep in mind guys, JWH-18 is NOT spice. It might be an ingredient in spice, but it is NOT spice. Spice contains Damiana and other herbs which I personally would not smoke. It is like smoking dandilions with pot resin. Yuck! it might get you high, but I prefer the real stuff. Give me pure JWH-18, I don't need anything else.

medicinal properties

Actually the pure stuff (JWH) seems to be a great pain reliever. Better than pot. I know, I had a very bad experience that almost left me dead. I smoked high quantities of it while I was recovering and it was much better than any drug I could buy at the pharmacy. I could sleep and it controlled the nausea much better than weed, and it didn't make me cough. It smells sweet and synthetic, but definitely with the "cannibinoid" smell also. I love the smell just like good potent weed. --although they are quite distinct.

its the greatest thing

I have had a headache for 3yrs now . my dr has put me on all kinds of meds.they have put me on everthing all the headache meds availble by prescription plus things like zoloft,valium,buspar,betablockers and meds for seizures which is suppose to help headaches....it never stopped. I would get them so bad i could not figure out where i was because it hurt so bad.I could not even drive.I use to smoke pot but drug testing at my work tok it away.I still would smoke from time to time taking my chances because it did help my headache and gave a bit of relief.I found a smoke accidently from a friend that was legal and i tryed it.I notice my headache left me for a night.I bought some of the spice myself and started smoking it.To my surprise my headache left.I done some reserch and found it contained a drug called jwh-18 but no medical studies on it.I have smoked it now for 4 months and i have not even took anything for a headache since . not even a asprine.Im not trying to make excusses to use it because i very much like the high also and would still smoke it even if i still had a headache but i dont and i am greatful for it .Thank god people are always looking for an alternitive high or i would have never tryed it.

It's simply absurd that you

It's simply absurd that you would think JWH-anything "smells like a cannabinoid."

The JWH compounds are not cannabinoids. They are "cannabinoid receptor agonists" meaning they tickle some neruoreceptors in the same way that cannabinoids do. They have no meaningful resemblance to cannabis beyond this.

The "chemical smell" people associate with JWH-018 is the naphtha base - essentially the same as mothballs - naphthalene.

Now, whatever positive benefits are attributable to cannabis and its triggering of the CB1/CB2 receptors will most likely apply to JWH018 as well. Any other properties that cannabis has will probably not apply..in much the same way that -018 won't trigger a drug test. It's not THC, therefore it does not produce the same metabolites that THC does, which is what the drug test is looking for.

It is also entirely possible that -018 might have effects (either positive or negative) that THC/weed doesn't have...again, because they're completely different chemicals.

As an analogy...suppose you really like red cars. As long as you see a red car, you're happy. You might say "red" and "car" combine to trip your happiness receptors. Whether you see a red Ferrari in peak condition or a non-operational red '70s Ford Pinto doesn't matter to your happiness..so long as it's a red car. Aside from the similarity of making you happy...they don't have much in common. And thus is the case with -018 vs cannabis.

red cars

JWH-018 good, master. Make heap plenty good smokums cheap and cut out the rip off skunk sharks with their crazy racket £10 p.g. price fix.

serenity now

shit works, i smoke serenity now every day for past year because you dont fail a drug test and i get higher than weed but the high doesnt last long, some people who are not used to smoking pot and try serenity for thier first time they can freak out, but its kinda addictive but if can switch back to pot you would rather have pot than serenity, pots a more enjoyable high but spice is more intense, there completely different highs though

PUFF ULTRA STRONG

Yea serenity is ok but puff will knock your socks off,anybody know how to get it online because where i am stationed now the stores dont have it yet

Puff is no longer "THE STUFF"

You can buy it online here at legalherbsdirect.com Althought I wouldn't suggest you waste your money on it.. REDXDAWN has a new version that actually gets you where you want to be. As so stated in a prior reply PUFF used to be the stuff, but the creator changed the formula around. So it sucks now. 120 bucks later and it's still yet to go back to being
THE STUFF.

Serenity NOW

Wha is the long term affect in the Serenity Now? this shit is Bad to the bone, nice to know that i can pass a piss test everytime i go offshore to work....

Serenity Now

Serenity Now is plenty enough for me, and just wan to know what the Fuck is this shit going to do us in 10 yrs from now:
Damiana, Mugwort, Lion's Tail, Blue Lotus, Red Clover, Scullcap, Siberian Motherwort, and/or Almond, Molasses, Honey Vanilla.

Serenity Now

I've smoked Serenity. I was kinda buzzed whenever I asked my seller what the hell was in it, but that looks about right.. All I remember her saying was Lion's tail and blue lotus..

So, yeah.. I went bat shit crazy when I smoked it. My friend said it was because I was drunk AND smoking, but I don't know. Shit was moving. Blurry eyesight. Laughing all over the place. Felt light as a feather. THIRSTY AS HELL!!! I was freaking panting like I was dying for 3 minutes and he kept threatening to call the ambulance, lol. I hadn't even breathed that hard when I had asthma attacks. I think I panicked because everything was moving. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't a bad experience. I'm definitely going to do it again.

I have never, ever felt that way whenever I weed+alcohol. N-e-v-e-r. And if this gets the job done without the failure of my job tests, I'm game.

Serenity Now

You are exactly correct about that Serenity incense. Myself,I have been buying incense for about 1 1/2 yrs now and I find that mojo has more knock down, what do you think? Mysterious not too bad either...but my favorite is blending the spice and herbs of serenity and mojo for my newest name: ChickenFlip....or atleast I thought so when I mixed the two. I prefer with Water versus air because it brings the FIRE..now come back to earth as I blow the wind!! Take these five elements and the incense will bring you back to me while I leave you behind and you blow ur mind. HOLLA when you catch me???? Oh, and Myley Cirus, holla at me when ya 18...

lsd

lsd is good for a lot more than just getting you high.

this just goes to show the

this just goes to show the extent that people will go to, to surpass the law and get a legal high. This JWH-018 compound sounds extremely dangerous and the only reason why this was invented is because people are sick of weed being illegal. if weed was legal you could buy it in a store and hope that the FDA was making sure that no one slipped any coke or other substance into the mix like you would have to worry about with a dealer. but i'm afraid if weed became legal that corporations would start putting addictive chemicals in it in order to guarantee returning customers. therefore i think weed should stay illegal so that in 50 years from legalization there wont be thc patches for sale to help get you off the grass.

Additives

I am all for marijuana getting legal but, I really do worry about the government having control over additives in pot. There shouldn't be any but who's to say there won't be if legalized. I have smoked the spice stuff and I prefer the real thing. Let me grow my own and they can take it from MY cold dead hand.

JWH-018 and Herbal Incense observations

It appears from what research I have done that several herbal incense products have used JWH in some form or another to "lace" a mixture of herbs. It also appears that the JWH is what is getting you high, not the herbs. It appears that the herbal incense manufacturers hang around for a while but then thier product deteriorates in quality/potency.

There is too much mystery and not enough hard facts to figure out how the JWH is produced (it is supposed to be very easy to make) and possibly the greatestt danger of the JWH comes from the refining process (contaminants) so it is critical that the process be professionally managed by reputable suppliers.

Currenlty Serenity Now seems to be holding the top dog spot. For how long, who knows. At the best non-bulk price I have seen of about $20 per gram, it is quite expensive and I must assume highly profitable so I expect new products to continuously appear.

By taking a look at the wikipedia info on JWH-018 and the other similar chemicals you can see that there are several levels of potency with HU-210 being 100 to 800 times more powerful than THC. Now that is something to be concerned about. Especially considering that the actual amount of psychactive ingredient is not disclosed or apparently properly controlled.

Yet, it appears that for now, the substance is legal. Gee, you can buy the junk on eBay and now the folks that make it www.nolacounterculture.com is battling a knock-off version called Serenity Plus which claims to be stronger. It also appears the FDA, DEA and other government watch dogs are aware of the stuff and probably taking moves to suppress or control the substance.

And, I must add that from experience, I know the stuff will get you a very similar high to weed. Sometimes higher depending on the quality of the weed. I spent time in Panama in the 70s so I know good weed.

My biggest concern so far is that the manufacturing process is totally uncontrolled and because all of them have the disclaimer that it is not for human consumption, they can get away with this. Because it does get you high and because you can use it without failing a pee test it is going to stay popular until something changes regarding the weed laws.

I know, I'm rambling but these details are the collection of thoughts I have accumulated based on the research, I have done so far so I will contiunue.

One other tidbit to mention. The web sites and business information are very secretive regarding these incense products. If you do a whois on most of the sites, such as nolacounterculture.com, you get essentially nothing trackable. In fact, the domain name was just registered as of 10/13/09 so it is very new. I'm going to have to assume the motivation is to hide from the public and possibly the government? This is also a bad sign for a legitimate, responsible business.

So, with all this smoke and mirrors, the general misleading of the public regarding "actual" content and trackable business contact as well as "secret processes" for manufacture, I have to conclude these are dangerous signs.

From all of these I see two reasonable recourses for the general consumer.

One, find out as much as you can about the JWH product. If you can make it, how? Is it bad for you, how? Might as welll turn this into a DIY project rather than get ripped off at $20 a gram and mix it with whatever smoke you like.

Two, legalize pot and make this whole mess a non-issue. Not enough space left to get on the bandwagon of why pot should be legal but to say, come on America, by now most of you in your 50s smoked the stuff and probably still would if you could get your hands on it. You don't need to do more research (we have statistics and data out the ying-yang.) How smart is it to leave alcohol legal and make pot illegal? From a financial perspective there is gold in them thar weeds. The price structure is already established and the profit/tax income potential is tremendous. The market is well established and the potential danger is minimal. We are making criminals/ruining the lives of people that are doing little more than using a substance no more dangerous than alcohol and we keep fighting the new arrivals that skirt under the law by coming out with similar substances that are potentially more dangerous. The insanity of our actions is that we keep doing the same things, expecting a different outcome.

It's time we made weed leagal, all take a toke and laugh about how stupid we were.

JWH-018 NOT SPICE

I HAVE PERSONALY TRIED JWH-018 IN THE PURE WHITE POWDER AND IT IS BY FAR THE MOST INTENCE HIGH I HAVE EVER GOTTEN. I HAVE MADE IT INTO LIQUID DROPS AND LACED CIGARETS... (ABOUT 8 DROPS WILL DO) WITH IT AND I AM GOING TO APPLY IT TO SKIN PATCHES AND TRY THE STUFF THEN. I HAVE ALSO SMOKED IT RITE OUT OF AN OIL INHALER IT TAKES ALOT OF HEAT BUT I HAVE LEARNED IF YOU TAKE TO BIG OF A HIT YOU WILL TRIP OUT BUT I HAVE NOT HAD ANY SERIOUS HEALTH EFFECTS BUT 2 OF MY FRIENDS WENT TO THE HOSPITAL AND THEY WERE BOTH RELEASED WITHEN 24 HOURS AKA.ONCE THEY CAME DOWN... IN MY PERSONAL OPINYON JWH-018 IS FAR BETTER THAN THC... I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY SPICE PRODUCT I AM ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE PURE STUFF EVERYONE I HAVE GAVE IT TO HAD SOMETHING POSATIVE TO SAY ABOUT IT EVEN THE 2 THAT WENT TO HOSPITAL IT IS CHEEP GIVE IT A TRY DO NOT TAKE MORE THEN YOUR BODY CAN HANDLE AND I PROMISE YOU WILL LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!

Side effect

Apparently that stuff also makes it hard to find your caps lock. Let me be the first to suggest that you try smaller doses.

lithium?

I heard lithium is put into Serenity Now. Is that true or just some BS?

k2 bans

i found them on google ads. they update news about k2 bans often.

http://www.drjsmokeshop.com/

Serenity Now

Take it from someone who REALLY knows. SERENITY NOW is a great product. The next best thing.

serenity, GET KIND it is the BEST.

ya the serenity is good but the kind is very similar but more mellow!! its wonderful check it out at kindworldshop.com, i smoked it since i started gettin drug tested

just legalize mary jane!!!

just legalize mary jane!!! what's the difference.... nothing really except chemical!!! F off to THC being illegal!

yes

i'm with ya. make it easy on everyone. make weed legal!!! i love to smoke on a daily basis.

www.TheMellowFellow.com We

www.TheMellowFellow.com

We pride ourselves on offering the highest quality Herbal incense blend on the market. Our Herbal Blend "Mellow Fellow" is Damiana Leaf infused with the highest quality JWH-018 available.If we go along with theses laws targeted at Jwh we are supporting the same laws that keep us from selling and paying taxes on weed.

SuperNova Herbal Incense

SuperNova is pretty damn good. I saw a video of some peeps smoking it on youtube so I bought some from NolaGoldIncense.com They are supposedly the manufacturers. Got it in the mail three days later and I'm off. I thought serenity was good. SuperNova is pretty damn good. lol

Dumb

I hope they make this illegal too. Cause I know very immature people that spend all their money on this stuff and they are ADDICTED and dont know it. I find this soooo discusting. I guess only cause it affect me personally. I am considering leaving my husband over this shit cause he cant controll himself!

Dumb II

Hey, I agree with you. Nobody knows the withdrawal symptoms regarding these chemical cannabinoids such as JWH-18 and JWH-078. I have tried JWH-18 and made my own personal Spice Gold using one gram of JWH-18. The high is more intense than weed, but the body feeling the next day confirms that it is a chemical and not an herb. You feel sluggish and worn out. Not refreshed at all.

My company is working on a new herbal blend that contains certified organic, kosher, and ethically wild crafted herbs with no chemicals that can match the intensity of Serenity and all the other chemical blends combined. I am using psychoactive herbs that were used by ancient Egypt, South Africa, China, Viet Nam, Peru, Native Americans, Indonesia, Mexico, Ecuador, and India.

These ancient cultures were getting bent up thousands of years ago. They knew the good stuff! I am working with a certified licensed herbalist in South Africa who is helping me collect the herbs and put them in this blend. When the blend is ready to be made public in the next month or so I will come back and give my email address where each of you can get a free sample pack on me. Free shipping is included. Weed is not the only herb that can get you toasted and these chemicals days are legally numbered.

re: dumb

im willing to bet you are a drinker. mind your own business and get a life

JWH-018 HATERS

Lets get something straight unless you grow your own pot you have no idea what you have smoked there are designer drugs that mimic THC-A its called THC-V it can be man made and applied to freshly harvested weed ensure maximum potency AKA "Beasters" you can be in denial if you want but if you smoked some ugly shit and got blazed lol guess what you just smoked...........synthetic thc i have seen it made with my own two eyes and can c0onfirm the highs now also i am sure there has been a few smokers that has been doing 018 as long as its been around so if in 15 years of use they havent found anything wrong yet like salvia then do knock it i prefer not to smoke 018 but to say its bad for you without evidence sound like the same talk you hear from the pot haters the bottom line is there is synthetics everywhere and if you don't think you had any you are crazy but before the world gets crazy just remember this last thing if your tolerance to pot has build up then you are more susceptible to search for that heavy high and start trying other things and 018 would definitely scratch some ones itch for a first time high and the good news is you can get this 1st high forever with this drug ( I hated my 1st high reason 018 is not for me) with an increase in doses as your tolerance does in my opinion though it would be better for those 1st time high seeker to lay down there joints for a dose of 018 than a meth pipe or snort there 1st line just some food for thought for those 018 haters check out herbalefex.com if you want a leagl bud that rips you instead of a bag of shake that cost 70 bucks i tried it and it ripped me to shreds

Orange Crescent

herbrelax.com

will be up and runing in 3 - 5 days. there you can get a much better quality product than k2 or spice for half the price.

I smoked this stuff for the

I smoked this stuff for the first time 3 days ago and I have NEVER had that kind of a high before. I was scared for my life. I tripped out harder than I ever have from smoking weed. I convinced myself that I was mentally insane. I still kind of think so, even after 3 days. I wouldn't advise it for the emotionally unstable.

yeah i had the same

yeah i had the same experience with Spice. I was wondering if it was just me i thought i really lost my mind and that i would be there forever. It really was the most intense high of my life.

Freedom Buds

FreedomBuds.com

The best I've found is at freedombuds.com, 3X as strong as K2, Spice, MOJO, PEP and it's much cheaper.

In fact they are so sure you'll be happy they give out a limited number of free samples each week for those still in doubt.

Can't beat that.

Haters?

Having heard first hand about the son of my friend who went to emergency because he was not breathing & comatose for over a week, I would say "haters" sound like this is a teen forum. Reality speaks for itself. This Evidence is first hand, not government officialized.

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Chronic pain

As a chronic pain sufferer with several spinal fractures. I have tried everything for pain. Cannabis works for pain and the synthetic form works even faster. Not everyone can get medical marijuana and the legal stuff is a God send.

I can stand behind HERBRELAX.COM and Orange Cresent smells wonderful. It is very relaxing and you will not be disappointed. Great stuff and they go out of their way to make sure you are happy with your product. They are life savers for many have chronic pain and have no insurance and can't afford the expensive pain pills.

I hope that others don't ruin it for those of us who really need pain relief.

legally busted

I was busted by the HUNT team a month before I receieved my lisence for legal weed, and so now I don't know if I still have my lisence. But for chronic pain you need to do something and I would rather go the green and natural way then use all the pills the dr want me to take. I tried extreme the other day and loved it. Not the real thing but it will do just fine....

herbal incense &weed

the government makes no sense. now they want to try and ban the herbal incense. make it easy on everybody and legalize possession of marijuana up to an ounce or two and you don't have this problem anymore. they are letting foreign countries sell the fake weed in the us and not make any money off of it. get with the program people, replace the incense in the stores with real weed. there is a large amount of Americans who smoke weed on a regular. 80% of the people who are against legalizing weed or banning the incense are probably drinkers. lets just make alcohol illegal again and see how that plays out. i'm not a drinker, im a smoker. alcohol is far more dangerous than liquor on so many levels, yet liquor remains legal and weed is still sending people to jail for simple possession. I was arrested 1 year ago for possession of one(1)joint. i was offered 4 years in prison for it on march 23rd, and now face trial in a week. is this justice or just plain cruelty?

buy this while you can!

buy it now at http://www.buyjwh018online.com. they have the best product hands down on the web, with ridiculous purity, great customer service and they're on time for their orders. Use them, soon while all this is all good and legal still.

Diabetic benefits of Pot

I have diabetes and neuropathy and I used to be against smoking pot, until I discovered that it lowers my blood sugar greatly and allows me to have feeling in my extremities. I am not a medical expert but I believe the reasons for that is because it lets my body relax and it circulates my blood. The price of pot isn't cheap but a box of insulin, needles, and all the other equipment needed to maintain the care of living with diabetes costs me over 500$ a month easy, and I'm sure many other people as well. I can't possibly be the first person to have noticed that, so why is medical marijuana not legal in all states, or rather, why is pot still illegal?
As for the herbal incense goes, I have tried it, Texas Gold. The taste and smell are significantly less than pot. It also burns the throat a bit but it does not induce coughing. If you don't know where or how to get pot, or can't smoke it due to its illegal status then herbal incense is sufficient enough.

Neuropathy

I can't believe there was a new reply to this article. I was just googling JWH-018 and neuropathy to see if there might be anything out there since I've heard marijuana was helpful for diabetes.

I've been smoking this stuff from DarwinsHeadStash after someone told me about it last week. It was only $12 bucks an ounce online so I gave it a shot. I've been using just a tiny bit (0.1 grams) smushed into the end of a cigarette. The first two nights I just did one bit, then yesterday I did it twice in one night and went directly to bed.

Today I woke up and was walking around (always in shoes an socks because of the neuropathy) and realized I could feel my toes and the bottom of my feet! They've been numb (or severely burning/stabbing/etc you know what I mean if you have it) for years! I've been on Elavil (an anti-depressant which is supposed to ease the neuropathy pain, but it has done little and I'm on the maximum dosage) and it hasn't really done anything except get rid of the burning/stabbing a little bit.

I haven't checked my blood-sugar in a few days, so maybe I've missed some other side-effects of JWH-018. I'm on a good high right this second. I'm headed to the living room now to take my shoes off and walk on the carpet. I haven't done it in a looong time!

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Idiots don't deserve a high

It's happening all over again and this time what's ironic is that many pot smokers are buying into the government's bullshit scare tactics this time, the guy that made these doesn't think they are very harmful and why should they be and as far as getting high, well WTF is so wrong with that it's far better than drunk, but they will no doubt in time make it illegal everywhere.

This stuffs been around since like 2001-2002 and the worst that's happened is some scared kids that should have never had access ran off to the E.R. because they got high and scared, sound familiar?

IT SHOULD! Another sustance being outlawed for no reason other than fear of the unknown at worst and because it might actually make someone feel like a human being for a little while at best.

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018

Well considering no one has died yet and i could not find a single death from jwh 018 from smoking it..people that end up in the hospital probly usually consumed too much,or are allergic to it, or just freak out..As long as this is legal I'm done with weed.

Illegal?

So nothing in this ocean breeze stuff would turn up on a hair test and not get me a job would it? Or can i smoke all that I want and nothing out of the ordinary will show up ? Really need some output.

nothing will show up on your

nothing will show up on your drug test..

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your responce to drug testing spice...

Hey, i have been researching answers and questions dealing with spice and other forms of legal weed as it is put. Im not knowlegable on these products at all. I am on probation and will be sent to prison for 5years if i violate. my predicament is that nothing is worth violating my dept of corrections contract, and am a very big believer in smoking budd. but with anything from happy shaman inc. or any of the spice or k3 or incence affect a drug test that they use. they use a strip of like 6 or 7 tests. i get tested every week. is spice and k2 or k3 the same thing? i smoked some stuff called trance by happy shamon last night and want to make sure that im ok. im very ignorant on these topics but im researching and learning.. it would be greatly appriciated if you could inform me on this.
thanks.

Smoke all you want

Ya, sure smoke all you want. It's safe. Just because the chemist has no CLUE as to whether or not there are toxic effects doesn't mean you can't let yourself experience peaks in blood pressure, racing heart beats and hey, why not smoke all you want so you can be the guinea pig who shows everyone whether or not you get a little brain damage? At least it won't be me right?

What do you expect a drug

What do you expect a drug that has no side affects at all?.. jwh-018 is just as dangerous as THC..no more no less..smoke it responsibly..

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Parent found son unresponsive

I received an email about a 16 year old that had to be hospitalized not breathing and unresponsive. Ya, mr. chemist you obviously have no clue. That does not relieve his responsibility for its sale on the open market. Even parents know more about this chemical that the creator. Thats really sad.

JWH supplier?

I have seen some JWH-018 suppliers posting their testimonials on here but I want to know from someone who has bought JWH (not spice) what are good online places to buy from. FERTOMAN.com looks legit and has a phone number - then there are websites with NO phone numbers...those look fishy as hell to me. So, anyone know where I won't get ripped off?

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i tried fake weed

very different than mj. cleaner, more focused high. i tried the gorillablend @ smokeblend.com. absolutely wonderful. got it in 2 days. changed my life. i can burn and pass drug test!!!

Tried K2 incense and it is great!

I had purchased some K2 incense claiming to contain the JWH-018 chemical compound off a variety websites and only got mildly high. I then found K2 Ultra, a new form of K2 incense on http://www.k2legalsmoke.com and holy s*** did I get blazed and watched like 3 movies in a row, then fell asleep. Was awesome.

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New Legal

Yo I just got this new stuff off the internet that has been the best legal bud I have smoked yet. The website is sakinaherbal.com, the best part of the website is that you can get free samples of all of there products. I could not find another website that would do this and I was not ready to spend any real money without knowing what I was getting. After I got the free samples some guy off the website sent me a code to get 15% off, the code is 400003 and it worked just fine. I am shocked that this stuff isn't more well known it is cheaper and made me higher than any legal thing I have smoked yet.

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way to much

Y'all mother fuckers are nuts. I live in the panhandle of florida, and I'm getting spice for 8 dollars, for 1.4 grams. I see people trying to sell it for 10 a gram online. You are fucking nuts

New 2nd generation spice type herbal incense is smoothest herbal

Wow that shit in the stores is old and harsh $$What$$ hack hack.
Wow that shit I got off the web made me cough hack puke and stink!
Wow that shit I got from the bathroom sink of some craiglist dude was strong
but why do I have a rash! coughing headache chest hurt lungs smell bad

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jwh-018 pure powder

Me an some friends tried this, most of us felt a very increased heart rate, I myself felt a weed like buzz, but one of my friends started throwing up, we gave him some space an being outside at night we heard some rustling of leaves went 2 check on him an he was crawling around next thing we knew he was on his stomach stiff as a board! Tried 2 get him up an he could not function at all. he was moaning and completly out of it. After a very scary 30 mins to a hour he woke up and puked more. The next day he said he didn't remember anything but puking. We smoke pot all the time, and have done other drugs as well, but never seen anything like that, mark k2 off my list of thiings 2 do

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