Senate Quietly Passes Bill S-10 and Mandatory Minimums For Marijuana

CANNABIS CULTURE – The Senate of Canada has passed Bill S-10, which includes mandatory minimum sentences for marijuana offences. No this is not a drill. The bill will now move to the House of Commons for voting before it can become law.

The Conservative-controlled Senate passed the bill on December 13 with barely a peep from the opposition Liberals or the press; an underwhelming response considering the implications for Canadians if the bill passes the House of Commons and becomes law.

If passed, S-10 will bring mandatory minimum jail sentences for marijuana offences to Canada for the first time – including six months for growing as few as five marijuana plants and 18 months for extracting hash or making pot edibles and sharing them. This means medical marijuana users who make pot cookies would be at risk of arrest, as there is no protection of this activity by current medical marijuana laws.

Some of the mandatory sentences increase to two years for growing or dealing near a school or park, and even more time with other ‘aggravating factors’.

The bill even includes life sentences for non-violent marijuana crimes.

A similar bill, C-15, made it through the Senate and House last year, but was first watered-down and ultimately killed when Prime Minister Stephen Harper prorogued Parliament in the wake of allegations of Canadian involvement in torture in Afghanistan. Now, with a stacked Senate, the Conservatives have been able to pass a stronger version of the bill, which includes mandatory prison terms of six months for just a few plants.

CLICK HERE to read more about how the law would change under S-10.

A search of Canada’s mainstream media websites revealed that NONE of them (as of the time of this writing) had reported on the passage of the bill.

Cannabis Culture contacted the Liberal Party for comment but our messages were not returned – and no press release has been issued by the Libs about the bill’s approval by the Senate.

The only comment from Liberals came in the form of a few critical questions just before the bill passed.

Senator Sharon Carstairs, who has Liberal party affiliation, questioned Conservative Senator John D. Wallace about the expected costs associated with the bill, estimated at $300 million to start:

Senator Carstairs: I listened carefully to the honourable senator’s presentation in which he talked about the $30 million for youth programs, $100 million for treatment and $102 million to combat production, plus another $67 million, for a total of $300 million.

Can the honourable senator tell the chamber how much it is anticipated the additional incarceration costs will be as a result of this legislation? As I am given to understand from a recent study by Corrections Canada, the number of women who will be incarcerated will increase by 225 per cent as a result of this bill.

Senator Wallace: Honourable senators, I cannot provide any figures in terms of the direct impact this legislation would have on rates of incarceration. I know that is a question and an issue that has been dealt with on other bills that involve mandatory minimums. Certainly, through the Department of Public Safety and the Department of Justice, it has been acknowledged that rates of incarceration could well increase and that money will be required to provide the facilities to deal with that. We have had assurances that not only will that happen, but that it is happening now.

Liberal Senator Tommy Banks said he supported the intent of the bill, but not the fine print:

If one weighed the provisions, not to say the words in this bill, the vast majority of it is good. […] If the bill did what it said it was going to do, I would have no trouble voting for it. However, I am obliged to vote against the bill because it does more than it says it will do. The purport of the bill, in its summary, says that it is for minimum penalties for serious drug offences.

I have said before how opposed I am to the idea of minimum penalties for anything, which I will address again in a minute, but this bill goes further than that. Senator Baker talked about this earlier, and Senator Wallace answered in response to Senator Fraser that, yes, there are circumstances that none of us would think of as trafficking in a controlled substance which are caught by this bill. Giving your friend a Tylenol because he or she has a headache is an offence under this bill. Growing six marijuana plants in order to have a party with your friends at graduation is an offence under this bill. No money made; just doing it for friends. I know that is not the intent of the bill because it says it is for serious drug offences in the summary.

We have to look at what the law says, and it says, among other things, that if I give Senator Baker a Tylenol 3 because he has a headache and if we happened to be near a school, whatever that means — “near” is not defined — that is trafficking and I can be prosecuted.

If we do this minimum sentence business, we are removing the discretion from judges about whether to proceed with something and relying instead, as Senator Baker has reminded us, on prosecutorial independence. It will be prosecutors who decide whether to prosecute me for giving Senator Baker a Tylenol and not others. That is the law we are passing.

Let me read you what it says in terms of the aggravating factor of being in or near a school. It says:

(ii) to a minimum punishment of imprisonment for a term of two years if

(A) the person committed the offence in or near a school, on or near school grounds or in or near any other public place usually frequented by persons under the age of 18 years,

It is talking about malls, theatres, concert halls and arenas, for example. That is what this law says.

Senator Charlie Watt also questioned the Conservative wisdom behind the bill, and was upset it didn’t include his proposed amendment that would exempt Aboriginal Canadians from the mandatory minimum jail sentences:

What I heard last week in this chamber was a misguided government plan to further penalize Aboriginal people in the Canadian justice system. There is only one way to take the action of removing a judge’s ability to interpret. Senator Wallace called them “our Aboriginal brothers and sisters.” In reality, they are victims of culturally intolerant government policy.

Read the entire discussion of S-10 in the Senate on the Government of Canada website.

Jacob Hunter, Marijuana activist and founder of WhyProhibition.ca, told Cannabis Culture the bill will harm, not help, Canadians.

“Yet again we have a house of our Parliament that is completely capitulating to this Conservative ideological war on our community,” he said. “This is a bill that has been proven, time and time again, to have nothing to do with reducing crime, nothing to do with reducing the availability of drugs on our streets, and everything to do with increasing the number of innocent, law-abiding Canadians in prison. We’re talking about a bill that will massively increase prison population, massively increase spending (especially Provincial) on prisons and policing, and that will have absolutely no positive effect. It is an absolute travesty – and one, I will continue to point out, the Conservatives can offer no piece of scientific evidence in support of.”


YOU CAN HELP STOP S-10 FROM BECOMING CANADIAN LAW

Please contact your Member of Parliament and tell them to VOTE NO on Bill S-10. No mandatory minimums for marijuana!

Find your Member of Parliament’s contact info on this list or search with your Postal Code.

Let the Liberal Party know you are against this bill – call Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff: (613) 995-9364

Sign up at WhyProhibition.ca to get involved in marijuana activism online and receive regular updates about S-10 and protest actions in your area.

Watch Cannabis Culture for more news about Bill S-10 and upcoming activism events.

Comments

65 Comments

  1. AnonymousA -SAD-Canadian on

    Its not about being un fair it is about the fact that canadians as a majority seek legalization of marijuana.

    MY reason, because cannabis helps me sleep, I was prescribed “benzodiazepine“ I was getting very reliant on a very danger prone drug some times needing twice my dose to sleep, and if I had none I would have an even harder time to sleep, Did I mention the danger of the drug, I tried MJ, and sense have gained a normal sleep pattern, my health feels 1000 times better, I have far more energy, and much less stress. ALL so it removes a craving I had for caffeine (studies have show caffeine is worse for you then cannabis) Plus it has cut my smoking problem in half (tobacco),

    Cannabis Is My savor, and it is saving my life, as it is helping many other People I know, It is proved cannabis has a very strong positive Potential on many fronts, Health, Economy, Enviroment, energy, oil independence, shal I continue, its not hard to find the studies check records of just about every creditable college or University In the modern word, all show very positive results.

    That is just my very much Positive experience with the substance, Imagine how many more there are Plus The show up at parliment hill and other major cities abrowd canada show there is a huge Number Of canadians who want legalization.

    Government is Elected to represent the PPL, not dictate to them and right now it shows that the Conservatives if pass this are Not representing canadians and this will be a sad blow to what our late relatives faught and died for both WW1-2, I bet there turning in there graves wathing our freedoms to choose being taking away after they faught so hard to give us Costing them there own lives, DO the right thing MR Harper or or openly admit we are now loosing our status as a true Democracy

    A very Sad Canadian.

  2. Anonymous on

    its only true i got my high school education diploma went to jail for 2months not knowing anything about cocaine and crack i came out knowing how to cook it and sell it and triple my money in just a week jail is a place to learn how to make drugs

  3. Anonymous on

    Why don’t you just live your own lives and get the hell out of mine.

    You may disagree with the use of this herb but I disagree with the use of the fraudulent banking system and credit cards that create massive debt bubbles but do I say you should go to jail for a minimum time for using a fraudulent system? You are perpetuating fraud… that means whether you know it or not, you are an accessory to fraud.

    I effect one person and only one person with my smoking, and that is me. The day I force you to smoke or blow it secretly in to your home or car, is the day you have the right to tell me to stop. Otherwise, do something else.

    Write a book about the dangers of smoking to teach people. That would save lives vs sending people to jail which accomplishes nothing. Most drug users go in to jail with a high school education in drugs and come out with a degree in drug trade.

    This is not helping.

  4. John Williams on

    You sir are the epitome of a COWARD! Instead of standing up to an injustice, such as the law you reply to, you would instead turn tail and run, probably leaving some family members and your community behind. Your apathy and cowardice is a disturbing commentary on the state of Canada and even all of North America today. Have you ever heard of the Jewish poem “First they came…”

    First they came for the communists,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew.

    Then they came for me
    and there was no one left to speak out for me.

    While this poem may seem to be a little melodramatic and/or inappropriate for this particular case I personally believe it is entirely accurate description for the spirit underlying what those resisting unfair laws are fighting aainst. It is a fight for individual autonomy, a subject directly related to the collectivist eugenic beliefs that fueled the holocaust. The same spirit fuels the drug war and the war on individual free will, in which an individual is hurting no one except MAYBE themselves, just the outcome is different. Instead of eradicating jews, the handicapped and gays, a portion of our own population is victimized and put in jail due to what evidence is beginning to show has a medical cause, addiction. Maybe the laws will one day grow to the point that your current actions encompass something that is against the law, ie eating unhealthy food or leaving your house at night, and you will run away, that is if running away is even legal. Hopefully nothing like that ever happens, either way though I hope you will reconsider your apathetic and cowardly beliefs, for the sake of individual autonomy and free will.

  5. Anonymous on

    Like so many of these other repulsed, posters I a disgusted by your lack of latitude on the subject. Radical-simplism. I think most can agree that the doctrine of common law is the closest handbook to what a society needs, all the bells and whistles of an ever evolving and increasing in length law book probably just dull the entropy of the creative mind.

    ‘To each person, cause no harm or loss.’

    This can, as well, be placed along side that seminal phrase by Karl Marx;

    ‘From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.’

    Now I know most of you will immediately jump at me for this clearly ‘communist’ sentiment, but Saskatchewan was probably the most resilient local area during the 2008-2010 crashes, but before you attack consider this argument. The fear of communism is that there will be less for everyone if certain people, social parasites, don’t put in their due and yet equally reap the benefits(they will get out more than they put in); however consider the land-owner, this man takes out more ‘profit’ than work he puts in, by definition he is a social parasite. So if one person legitimately accumulated every piece of value on earth; would you salute them or redistribute the wealth?

    The government is the land owner; the people who know this secret use it to their advantage.

  6. Anonymous on

    it’s a sad day in Canada when growing A PLANT will land you in jail …. tsk tsk….. shame on us

  7. Anonymous on

    People like you are complete fucking tools, and the reason Cannibis laws are the way they are. Please leave my country and go to one with people that have the mentality. Because if you actually think that every single responsible Canadian has never or will never try pot, because its illegal, you are very badly mistaken.

    Do yourself and all the rest of us a favor, next time someone hands you a joint, just toke it. Then I will listen to your opinion on Cannibis.

  8. Anonymous on

    And just what is so wrong about smoking pot? Why don’t they ban alcohol again?

  9. Anonymous on

    And just what is so wrong about smoking pot? Why don’t they ban alcohol again?

  10. Brian Kerr on

    Mr. Anonymous. I hope you die of cancer slowly with out the aid of pain meds.

  11. Anonymous on

    5 is not enough

  12. Anonymous on

    lol, I guess George Washington and all the other colonists should have just bent over and took it from the British, right? Those uppity Americans were totally in the wrong during the Boston tea party. I mean, the Stamp and Tax acts were totally justified since it was ordered by the infallible government!

    Give me a break if you think I should leave this country because I don’t like the way my personal freedoms are being violated.

  13. jon on

    HEAR,HEAR well said this dumb ass is beyond help.

  14. jon on

    Your a dumb ass it about personal freedoms and personal choice my body is my own and what i put in is up to me and non of yours or anyone else’s concern!!!Putting people in jail for being in a state of mined is crazy, VERY VERY EXPENSIVE,DOES NOT WORK,AND WILL BRAKE THE BANK. Know one is saying let people act as criminals and steal,kill,rob and rape we are talking about smoking a and growing a plant god put here.For all you god fearing people out there who say it a sin and the plant is evil remember it is you that say god made EVERY THING IN THE UNIVERSE, GOD IS PERFECT AND WITHOUT MISTAKE AND CAN’T EVEN LOOK AT SIN OR EVIL THINGS. So how is it that you fined his very creations as evil,bad and a sin to enjoy.So was god high when he created cannabis and gave it its psychoactive properties was that a mistake. What about the coca plant, or any other plant for that mater.Who are you to tell me i can’t enjoy gods gift to mankind GOD?

  15. Troy Campbell on

    Well you know the way politics goes and politicians have to play there could be something else going one that I crossed my mind when a news cast mentioned there could be a federal election as early as next year.,

    So with bill s-10 thru the senate and now ready for vote that means harper and his conservs think that they are going to get a majority vote on the bill otherwise they would never let it go to a vote because if the bill is defeated I believe that will allow for the liberals or NDP to call for a vote of no confidence which would then mean there will be a federal election ,

    So who knows it is possible that the ndp and liberals are planning to defeat the bill inthe final vote and try to force the conservatives out. If this happens and the NDP could win a majority vote we could possibly see major changens in canadian marijuana policy we havent yet considered because inside ever cloud is a silver lining. And when it comes to politicians I say a rabid dog is more trustworthy

  16. Anonymous on

    yeah, my bad.
    however, when you click the link “a drill” it still brings you to dec1 and the article that headlines THE SENATE HAS NOT PASSED BILL s10.
    sorry to all.

  17. Anonymous on

    Look at the dates on the stories. The story you linked to (the one about bill S-10 NOT passing) is an old one.

    This is a new story about S-10 actually passing this time.

    Why don’t you read the articles before you start complaining?

  18. Anonymous on

    you self righteous prick what skeletons are in your closet?

  19. Anonymous on

    so, if this article has been amended…. it’s here http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2010/12/01/Bill-S-10-has-NOT-Passed-Senate

    this article is still front and center on the web site even though it is completely false!
    it’s been here for two days now and is undoubtedly scaring the shit out of people. not to mention that it’s not true. some of the responses are interesting and informative but i would hope that this web site would hold itself to a “higher” standard and remove it.

  20. gstlab3 on

    YOUR STREETS MAY AT SOME POINT FALL TO THE THUG CLASSES BEING DEVELOPED BY THE EVER INCREASING ECONOMIC PILLAGING BY POLITICIANS AND THE SPECIAL INTERESTS AND DRUG WAR ZELLOTS.,USUALLY THOSE IN THE MARKETS OF PROFITING FROM BIG PHARMACUETICAL COMPANIES AND OTHER GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE ADVOCATES AND THEIR DEPENDANTS.

    BUT THE MOST FEARED OF YOUR EVER INCREASING GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE THE JUDICIARY AND THE POLICE STATE UNDER WICH THE ENTIRE PLANET IS BEING SUBJECTED TO UNDER THE GUISES OF THE U.N. PEACE KEEPING OPERATIONS., THE BROADER PARTNERSHIPS OF THE E.U. AND THE UNITED STATES BANKING CARTELS.

    THE POLICE PLANET IS HERE IT IS NOW.

    THE WHOLE PLANET IS BECOMING A PRISON UNDER AN EVER WATCHFULL INTER NET.,
    CYBER VIDEO AIDED WORLD WIDE POLICE STATE.

    BUCK THE SYSTEM AND PAY OR GO TO PRISON OR BOTH.

    IF YOU ARE A REAL THREAT LIKE MR. MARC EMERY., THE UNITED STATES WILL ISSUE A WARRANT FOR YOUR CAPTURE AND ARREST.

    TELLING THE TRUTH IS EQUIVELENT TO TREASON TO THESE ELETISTS AND THE FREEDOM OF THE INTERNET IS THE ONLY PLACE THEY HAVE’NT COMPLETELY SHUT US DOWN YET AND WE MUST ACT TO SAVE OURSELVES FROM THIS MADNESS SOON.

    REMEMBER OUR DESSENT IS TREASON TO THE WORLDWIDE COMMUNIST MOVEMENT AND WE ARE A STUMBLING BLOCK TO THEIR COMPLETE TAKE OVER OF OUR INDIVIDUAL COUNTRIES.

    THE GROWING SIZE AND SCOPE OF YOUR GOVERNMENTS ARE THE BIGGEST THREAT TO THE NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENTS ECONOMIC STABILITY.

    THE JOB AT HAND SHOULD BE A COLABRITIVE EFFORT TO ENACT A BETTER SYSTEM OF MONITORING OUR BOARDERS TO PROTECT US FROM TERRORIST ATTACKS ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND TAINTED DRUGS FROM UNKNOWN SOURCES.

    BELIEVE ME MARIJUANA PROHIBITION IS THE LEAST OF OUR WORRIES ON THIS SIDE OF THE POND.

    THE WEST IS AT WAR WITH THE EAST.

    THE WORLD IS AT WAR WITH THE COMMUNISTS WORLD WIDE PLAN FOR TOTAL DOMINATION OVER THE ENTIRE GLOBE.

    THE GLOBALISTS THE WORLD WIDE BANKING SYNDICATES AND CARTELS ARE ALL IN WAITING AND ARE PLANING FOR OUR RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS TO BE ERRODED AWAY ENOUGH SO THEY CAN WITHOUT EVEN A FIGHT TAKE US TO THE PROVERBIAL “CLEANERS”.

    ARE WE “THE SHEEPLE” AND SLAVES TO THE STATES WE LIVE IN OR ARE WE SOVREIGN INDIVIDUALS FREE WITH INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS GIVEN TO US BY GOD.,
    THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE AND ALL THINGS?

  21. Anonymous on

    The word “blood” at the end was actually part of the captcha thing but went in the wrong place. It’s appropriate though because that’s what Canadian streets will run with after S-10.

  22. Anonymous on

    How long do you think it will take for somebody to get convicted under S-10 for making some brownies and then appeal it to the Supreme Court and have the MMS struck down just like with the 7 year MMS for importation? Imagine the Crown trying to argue that orally administered THC is somehow more harmful than smoked herb. How the hell they going to back that ridiculous position up with science? In fact, Health Canada should be sued for NOT dispensing edible Cannabis products and hashish. It’s an easy case to make that the less smoke involved the less negative side effects. The Crown would have to explain why it is that California patients don’t seem to be experiencing negative effects from the hash and edibles dispensed in all those LA dispensaries. S-10 accomplishes one thing and one thing only, to very clearly demonstrate the pathetic lack of intelligence of Canadian politicians. Notice I didn’t limit it to the Conservatives. That’s because all the rest of the politicians were actually stupid enough to agree with the Conservatives. It’s like Dumb and Dumber only they’re actually in positions of power. It’s basically the worst nightmare of every Canadian. We always suspected that 99% of Canadian politicians were complete imbeciles, but now it’s a confirmed fact and there’s not a damn thing we can do about it. Who are we going to vote for, Dumb, Dumber or Dumbest? That would be Harper, Ignatieff and Layton, in no particular order. Hard to tell which is which.

    What will the net result of S-10 be when it is inevitably passed? The price of weed will go up to US prices. It will be commonly $400-500 an oz. There will be fewer growers and they will make more money. Nobody will bother growing less than 200 plants. The growers didn’t even have to contribute to the Conservative Party to get these beneficial conditions. Harper and Nicholson just figured the growers weren’t being paid well enough for their efforts and decided to help them out, at the expense of the generous taxpayers of Canada who will pay to lock up the small time competition to clear the market for the gangs, who will have more shootouts on the streets and blow up more cars with kids playing near them. Yup, there will be a lot of civilians caught in the crossfire which results from S-10 but the important thing is that Harper gets a few extra votes, right? Harper, Ignatieff and Layton couldn’t care less about kids catching a bullet or getting blown to pieces on Canadian streets. They don’t care about minor crimes like murder, just the big stuff like growing herbs. blood

  23. Troy Campbell on

    You must be lost because this bill makes it illegal for a medical marijuana patient who;s goverment forms have a box indicating I use my medication by ingestion so if making brownies is illegal how can there be one law saying making them is illegal while I posses a licence from the same goverment saying I can eat my marijuana and if you say dont make it into food well do the reading and you will find that the plant has to be heated either by being burnt in smoking or cooked into a food to activate the medicinal components,

    So this is infact a law that will allow the govt to make criminals of citizens who are following a law that was forced on the govt because of there violation of our constitutional rights so by addin in the edible clause they are able to criminalize half of the medical marijuana program in one fell swoop,

  24. Dave on

    OK… I just gotta sat something to this^^^. If every law we pass is a gun pointed at our heads, this Bill s-10 is Desert Eagle .50 at point blank range.

    This bill is gonna totally fuck up the Canadian medicinal marijuana program and it also goes against all the work that has been done to abolish Cannabis prohibition and ensure access to the patients that are actually in need of this wonderfully useful plant and its medicinal qualities that can’t be synthesized or found anywhere else in nature.

    I am Canadian medical marijuana patient. this bill includes mandatory minimum of 18 months for making, possession, or use of extracts, including hash, oils, tinctures, and edibles. I use all these different types of extracts for various symptoms and situations. Believe it or not, the preferred method of use among legit medical patients is through oral ingestion,not smoking. Whether that be edibles, tinctures, or capsules filled with food-grade fat based extracts.

  25. Anonymous on

    You poor souls, your following the US( My shithole) down the same path to empire. Dont you know that every law you pass is a gun pointed at your head.

  26. Anonymous on

    you’re the word is you’re as in you are not your

    if conservatives always ruled the world we would be

    1. still living in caves
    or
    2. all be forced to pray to the same thing

    bowing down to unjust laws makes people brain dead. you were probably one of the people
    bashing skulls at the summits, or at least supporting it. maybe you should go back to what
    you are good at on the internet like jerking off and playing farmville, not posting on an intelligent open
    minded form. i say good day.

  27. Anonymous on

    How many cops must be murdered before they open there eyes? legalize marijuana and cops will stop being murdered cold blood. Like they do to us citizens.

  28. Anonymous on

    That’s a very shallow way of looking at the law and so called drugs or foods we consume. It’s almost like a bot wrote it without any concept of what it means to be human in any of it! Are you a bot?

  29. LNM on

    I find it funny that this going down while Marc is in prison in a different country. Things like this wouldn’t be going down so quietly if he was here and free.

  30. Anonymous on

    Pando you’ve stated your arguments well, and that I respect, even if I don’t agree with them all. You touched on some points out side pot smoking such as the drunk driving and wile I’m not going to go into it at length, I would like to use your own scenario
    as an example. Drunk drives are just more people that feel that they are special, that there above every one else and the rules don’t apply to them. I am truly saddened to hear how lightly they were treated, but that isn’t part of the main topic. If you feel so strongly about this I urge you to step up and take part. Try and work for change from the inside.
    As for many of the others that have left responses. Your attitudes show how little you care for your personal freedom, (the freedom you have) I find the undeserved arrogance astounding. And wile I don’t give two cents if you sit and rot in jail, (it will serve you right) it angers me that as a tax payer, ill have to help pay for it. People such as your selves are useless burdens on society.

  31. Anonymous on

    NOT BLOODY LIKELY !!!

  32. Anonymous on

    WHo they must worship????? And you finalize with “”I’ll be contacting my MP”””…. sorry but your subconsciously worshipping your MP and the government for your freedom…. does that mean ‘we’ are free if you can contact them, or are we bowing to the minister like the last 10000 yrs of humanity? Politicians are the new age excuse for religion, they are the brainwashed ones! BUT YES, GIVE THEM A PIECE OF YOUR MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEFORE YOU NEVER GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK AGAIN!!!!!!!!! Which MP is reading this article? ANybody????? Out there????? Pink FLoyd??? Anybody out there? The wall, nice nazi lookalike, MP- Harper, shave your eyebrows off so you know what its like to sweat for the first time in your life!!!! I don’t think you’ve ever dripped a drop? You’re robots do all the work! Robots again!
    Don’t be sucked into it all….. and yes, this will lead to much disgusting violence…. and who says not to be upset? 1-5, 6-199, 200+ !!!!??????

    Who benifits and who loses?
    1-5 = 1-5 flavors maximum potential, anxiety!! Danger!!
    6-199 = aggravating life threatening attack on sovernty and health, anxiety!! Danger!!
    200+ = More reason for gangs/dealers/immigrants/niggers (like many this year shooting) to kill for the risk they take, Relief!!!!!! POWER! Anticipate sterile prison first class treatment from new 5-star prisons on the bill!!!!! 300 Million needed? FOr …? Spy tech equipment? Gold bars in the prisons? FUll cable channel200% increase in Judge and police pay and pensions etc. ???

    Ever seen Breaking bad? Why does Walt cook 200 lbs a week in the end?

    Who will ‘Break BAD’???? or who will ‘GIVE GOOD’???? (‘break bad rules’ or ‘give good’ blowjobs to conservatives)???
    There’s another view for ya’ll (oh, not southern for using ‘ya’ll) but some how I’m reminded of southerners….????
    Who’s the god damn mind reader here???? EVERYONE!!!!!! ITS ALL FUN AND GAMES,…… what you like, is what you like, what you don’t like, is what you don’t like,…… and if MARIJUANA is likable and fascinating, why is alcohol and tobacco disgusting??
    We can all only be what we must be and the wrong path once past a point can not be reversed…. the fork splits downhill into gravity, no escape, everything starts from the beginning and we’ll, I would like to taste some nice blueberry or Haze,mmmmm, we already like HAZE, we don’t need a hazy dust cloud from an explosion or smog cloud involved in our inhalation process, its more dangerous for our lungs to drive on the road than smoke cannabis!! Harper, I heard you might reduce the price of winter tires?????????

  33. El Duchy on

    What is the big deal here?
    The Senate has now power and should be abolished.
    Dope smokers should be allowed (and they pretty much are) to inhale their brains out without any interference.
    Doh!

  34. Anonymous on

    People who would have kids in this brainwashed pattern are only contributing to more chaos, breed elsewhere, or in the closet, GAYS or GROW-OPS – In the CLoset???? I think the politicians are the gay ones trying to attack a female plant and put it out of business!

  35. Anonymous on

    I think the only thing that will solve this is putting kids in prison as school, you know those private school kids seem to be pretty organized by the time they’re old enough to be part of ‘society (MONEY WORLD)’.

  36. Anonymous on

    5 flavors max is not enough!!! There are too many genetics to stop there!!

  37. Anonymous on

    maybe we should ban booze….and place to comsume it..and implicate these laws for alcohol….so maybe those drinks u like haveing should put u in jail….drunk driving. drunk killings, drunken anything causes more harm to anybody….u dont ever hear of pothead that when on a stoned rampage of crime sprees or even killing ppl…u hear about drunk drivers…MAYBE EVERY FUKIN DAY!!!marijuana is not a drug it grows in the wild in some places of the world…its not like hard drugs that are mixed in a toilet with chemicals and manufactured shit….and ask any stoner, if they feel special for choosein to smoke up??? no fo most ppl its a a way of life much like tobacco.oh wait tobbaco grows naturaly…it gives ppl lung cancer….hmmm maybe we should throw smokers in jail too after all thier second hand smoke is even worse ad proven by ur precious government…. ur views are biased and uneducated so to u i say fuck off and die bro

  38. Anonymous on

    Notwithstanding the fact that the war on drugs as so far been a dismal failure in general, with regards specifically to cannabis the idea of man classifying nature as illegal is stunningly arrogant.

    There are already laws in place to deal with violent activities, money laundering, etc. To lay blame on and to focus legal efforts on the control of a naturally occurring substance is barking up the wrong tree. Deal with the crimes that have victims and leave alone non-violent persons who commit victimless “crimes”.

    As for the comments about this not being a “free country”, why not seal the deal and take things to the next level? Instead of simply telling people what they can consume, we should go just that much further and tell them what they must believe, who they must worship. Why not have a state-mandated religion with mandatory incarceration periods for non-believers?

    This whole thing is just ludicrous. i, for one, will be contacting my local MP and strongly requesting that they oppose the bill.

  39. Anonymous on

    Yes, you are. If the Senate passed a bill that made apple juice illegal, I suppose you would say the same thing. Follow the rule of law. The government always knows what’s best for you. I’m surprised that, despite the tiny size of your brain, you managed to even turn on your computer and post this nonsense.

  40. Pawndo on

    Fair enough in your opinion and position to the article. However, i still feel the statement “its Not up to the individual to decide what laws to follow and what laws not to” is bogus especially when we are not invovled in creating or altering the laws and bills. It is absolutely unjust and simply silly that they so severely incarcerate people for such harmless acts. Meanwhile a few friends of mine have commited manslaughter by drinking and driving and were given a mere slap on the wrist and time served and are currently at home drinking yet again because they can’t live with the guilt. But they broke the law. But because they continue to feed the governments alcohol industry they are allowed to be free to do it again(solely my opinion with emotion). So, in conclusion, it IS “up to the individual to decde what laws to follow and what laws not to” AS LONG as your aware of the consequences and accept the risk. But why greater the risks on something so harmless? Recently in BC they “enhanced” the drinking and driving laws and sure the streets are safer but the Restaurant business’ are suffering drastically because everyone is afraid to drink. All in all the laws of prohibition are full of holes and continually modifying them over, and over, and over again is ruining many innocent peoples lives when in the end it boils down to MONEY!

  41. Anonymous on

    I believe you are confused and are in fact agreeing with my statement.

  42. Anonymous on

    Reply to Here’s the Rule

    then you are just a pussy slave to other’s control without the mind or guts to make your own decisions. A stupid law is a stupid law and even if this is only ‘alleged’ to be a free country, it is up to the ones with the ability to think for themselves to make it free for everyone, even pussy slaves. I bet you still wait at a red light at 4 AM with zero traffic on the roads and wait for the cross walk sign to tell you when you are ‘allowed’ to cross.

  43. Anonymous on

    To Pawndo
    I don’t necessarily disagree with what your saying in part. My concern isn’t weather the substance should be legal or not. That is a different conversation altogether. There are many things that aren’t legal that I believe should be. As I stated above weather you feel it should be legal or not is moot. “Its Not up to the individual to decide what laws to follow and what laws not to” My original point was that people obeying the laws have nothing to fear from bill s-10, and it seams to be of serious concern to some individuals that frequent this sight.
    I came because I was linked hear by a good friend that wanted my support against bill s-10, and wile I agree that if people find the bill intolerable, they should work against it with in the system, my own position is one of apathy, as it doesn’t affect me.
    In response to “suck my dick” your crude example is wildly inappropriate but ignoring that for a moment and addressing the sprit of it, such wild laws don’t get passed in Canada. And if they were I would leave Canada, given how I feel about your theoretical “suck my dick law”. As stated above, there is NEVER a reason to wilfully break a law.

  44. Anonymous on

    Here’s a rule “Suck my dick right now” Now play by the rules or be punished. Stop complaining about it, because there is NO excuse. New laws get made all the time so your telling me if they made a law you had to punch your kid in the face if he swore you’d be “mature” and follow it just cause they said “Those are the rules. If you don’t like than leave”

  45. Pawndo on

    I suggest you watch the movie “The Union: Business Behind Getting High”. It’ll help explain why some “rules” that are put in place are done for more corrupt reasons and made by bigger criminals than the people the “rules” are meant to incarcerate. It’s not a conspiracy movie and it is very informative. Just because you don’t appreciate marajuna doesn’t mean using should be a crime. Just because we are told it is “not healthy” or an “illegal substance” doesn’t make it true. I’m curious as to why you read articles in Cannabis Culture if you feel it’s for criminals anyway.

  46. Anonymous on

    This bill is a serious attack on Canadian Sovrenty. On one hand you have Health Canada issuing medical licences as this is a proven medication and on the other hand you have minimum manatory sentences for offenders??? Most Doctors are scared to sign the Documents for political reasons and you have patients that need the drug and can’t obtain it legaly. If the Canadian People knew that there was a cure for many cancers and were dieing needlessly becuase of coperate greed, there would be mastive civil unrest. I fear if this bill passes it could lead to extreme violence and civil war.

  47. Anonymous on

    Incase you haven’t noticed this isn’t a free country. There are a loads of laws that ban mundane things that should be up to your decisions to make. One example is bicycle helmets. There are many things that you can publicly say that will get you fined and or jail time, so there is no freedom of speech. The fact is like it or not, this isn’t a free country. Nor should it be. There are laws. It Not up to the individual to decide what laws to follow and what laws not to, and using the excuse “this is a free country” is just that an excuse to explain away deviant behaviour. If you don’t like the laws. LEAVE. End of story. And your right this isn’t china. The penalty for drug trafficking in china is death. Be happy it isn’t ours. As for my spelling.. I’m not surprised that people complaining that they will get into trouble if they decide to be criminals would make personal attacks against some one. To have so little regard for the laws is already a sign of low Maturity, and just the kind of behaviour one would expect. Its time to grow up people. Play by the rules or be punished. Stop complaining about it, because there is NO excuse.

  48. Anonymous on

    Thank you the conservatives for a beautiful christmas gift.Unemployed,thats all I needed (Bill S-10)to make me cheer up.

  49. Anonymous on

    allowed OUR opinions . .. . … damned atrocious spelling

  50. Anonymous on

    You are an ass and your spelling is atrocious. This is not Maoist China with ‘Re-Education Camps’, this is a free country where we are supposed to be allowed out own opinions and make decisions for ourselves.
    If that was sarcasm, it was a poor attempt.

  51. Anonymous on

    Michael Ignatieff is at the bottom of the polls as Liberal leader for a good reason, he’s a useless putz. He is the Neville Chamberlain of Canada, you know, the British politician who said Hitler wasn’t such a bad guy and acted as his enabler. Ignatieff thinks the Charter of Rights is only good for toilet paper. I didn’t hear Layton objecting much either. Apparently, all Canadian politicians in leadership positions have decided to join the dark side. We’re all doomed now.

  52. Anonymous on

    I don’t see why people hear are upset.. No one should be affected by this at all. You respect the laws that are already in place, you don’t do drugs, you have no worries about this. It only affects the people that feel there “special” that there exempt from the laws, and do as they please, that need fear. And yes. Those people should be jailed for a time so that they might understand the error of there ways.

  53. Anonymous on

    Finally the topics changed.

    For better or for worse.

    Check out…….

    Darkwing Duck , Best Cartoon “It’s best man”

  54. Anonymous on

    YOU ARE WRONG

    This bill was put through the Senate first and now the House, which happens some times.

    Both routes are allowed. Read about it here: http://dsp-psd.communication.gc.ca/Reference/queens-e.html

    A tip: If you call people out on their facts, you better be damn sure about your own.

  55. Anonymous on

    Bills go through the House of Commons first and THEN to the Senate. If this bill has already been passed through the Senate this means it is already been through the House of Commons first and it is already too late.

  56. Dave on

    I wonder if the “proximity to schools” part will apply to bars and alcohol vendors. If and when this bill becomes law, we should target sellers of alcohol located near these place where people under 18 frequent! We’ve been playing a losing battle of defense for too long now! We have to somehow go on the offensive. We need to use their laws against those assholes! Any suggestions?

  57. Anonymous on

    I’m going to grow 5 plants the size of a car.

  58. Anonymous on

    what if a youth sold on school grounds does that mean he gets the hardest sentence than an adul some were else.

  59. tsar motaf on

    because *he is too

    that’ll teach me for getting stoned and coming to this website. what a downer.

  60. tsar motaf on

    well for all those idiots who think legalization is just around the corner, this is now hard proof that not only does your government not give a shit about you or what you want, but will actually go so far as to pass this bullshit.

    want to know why this passed and liberals don’t seem to care?

    it’s because we are all too fucking fat, lazy, and too stupid to get off our asses and grow some damn balls.

    this will not be the end, not by a long shot. harper wants to see how far he can go before someone learns how to use a sniper rifle because is just as stupid as we are.

  61. diggerB on

    I love Marc Emery and I love weed, and I support any campaign for its legalization, which, one would hope, would eliminate the criminal aspects of the marijuana trade.

    “Nobody should go to jail.” Hmmm… personally I think the violently criminal should, especially if and when they are dragging the sweet leaf’s name through the mud.

  62. Anonymous on

    Nobody should go to jail,Legalize it and free Emery.

  63. diggerB on

    This article neglects to mention that the intent and wording of the bill focuses on actual criminal activity, as noted in the press release:

    “The legislation proposes mandatory jail time for offenders when, for example:

    – The offence of trafficking is carried out for organized crime purposes or a weapon or violence is involved;
    – The drug is sold to youth or the trafficking offence takes place near a school or an area normally frequented by youth; or
    – The production of the illegal drug constitutes a potential security, health or safety hazard to children or a residential community.”

    If you’re growing plants for personal use, it doesn’t appear that this bill applies. While I realize that this is a stepping stone in the wrong direction, I (as a daily pot smoker) don’t see that this is a bad thing.

    I’m sure many readers of CC will agree with me that if you’re using violence, supporting an organized crime group, or selling to kids, you deserve whatever you get.

  64. Anonymous on

    America is trying to go away from mandatory minimum sentences because it is a horrible policy that hurts a lot of people. I don’t understand why Canada is trying to put a policy into effect that has failed in the United States. This is the most asinine law anyone could ever think of, and what is even worse is that the media and the liberals in Canada don’t seem to care. People will start caring though when it gets passed and friends and neighbors are sent to prison for a long time for non-violent crimes like having a plant or making pot brownies. Then its going to be a long road to repeal this horrible legislation.