Group: Prop 19 Would Mean Pot-Smoking at Work

If marijuana was legal for adults in California, would more people show up at work high? And how would that change the definition of a “smoke break” during work hours?

That’s the latest issue facing proponents of Proposition 19, the ballot measure that would make marijuana legal for adults in California.

Voters will have a chance in November to decide whether to legalize marijuana for recreational purposes for adults over 21 but the political debate over the controversial issue has been heating up for quite some time. The latest argument against the ballot measure is that given the chance to smoke pot, people will be high at work.

The California Chamber of Commerce on Thursday released a legal analysis that claims Proposition 19 would lead to more workplace accidents by forcing employers to let workers smoke pot on the job.

The analysis by the non-profit group also challenges the proposed law by claiming it would make California companies ineligible for federal contracts because employers could not guarantee a drug-free workplace.
From the Chamber of Commerce website:

If this measure were approved, employers, including the State of California, would be faced with the burden of proving that an employee who tests positive for marijuana is “actually impaired” from performing the job before taking any adverse action against the employee. This process would delay disciplinary actions used to protect workplace safety and drive up costs due to increased litigation.

But the debate hits a wall with medical marijuana proponents, who say it’s much safer than certain perscription drugs.

Nick Willis, of Palliative Health Care in San Jose, argues that in some cases, worker performance could be enhanced by cannabis.

“I have families members with severe arthirtis.” Willis tols us, “If they’re typing or driving for work, they apply it to their knuckles and it helps relieve some pain.”

Prop 19 supporters say under the law, employers will still have the right to make their own rules and if being drug-free is a job requirement, employers can ban their workers from smoking marijuana.

– Article from NBC Bay Area.

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51 Comments

  1. David762 on

    Perhaps you think we should bring back the prohibition of alcohol, as well? Please remind me of just how well that worked out the first go around …

    IMHO, one of the very worse attributes of colonists from the Old World to the New World was their Calvinist holier-than-thou attitude, still prevalent among far too many Americans of almost every political stripe.

  2. Dale allo on

    After reading that I no longer think marijuana should be legalized. As well I think we need to do something about the crack issue.

  3. Anonymous on

    Some alcoholics think they can drive Ok drinking anything… ego boost gives them the urge to get away with it and drive hammered. SHOULD NOT BE COMPARED TO WEED. The real drunks think they don’t get impaired but they swerve all over the place. The way cars are made now you’re high when your sober in any space ship wannabe piece of garbage economy slaves new age car, and nicer cars… Smoking one will bring you back to reality when your ready to get on the road with all the other insurance paying idiots who don’t realize, if they didn’t have insurance, speeding wouldn’t exist quite as much. Try an Audi TT or a Porsche, oh, most of us can’t afford those, so we’ll pass on street racing. Excitement can cause a stroke, heart attack or seizure, which could cause death, too many arrogant fucks with their cars on the road making potential road rage weapons fights. If you think other drivers are calm, you’re wrong, they will ram you if they like! Maybe not with an Audi, but with a work van or basic car on their way home on Friday night, waiting for their weekend, ready to take anybody out of their way to get home. Attempted murder for running at someone with a car! Rewards are addiction! Now if that one in the van who’s ready to ram someone smoked a spliff, he wouldn’t be anxious and in a rush and most likely wouldn’t give a F about the traffic, he would just not enjoy the feeling of the ram and rage outlook. Can’t imagine in downtown New York, people do ram you! Smoking one at work likely makes everyones life better because work is ‘work’, not personal time and anybody out there thinks you like to work to pay your bills to government you’re a brainwashed puppet, win the lottery and then try to GO TO WORK and DON’T GET PAID, we’ll see if anybody stays there if they didn’t get Dead presidents in their electronic bank account. So for either substance, anyone’s first few times drinking or smoking is either great or horrible, I’m sure a lot have barfed enough to know you shouldn’t be putting alcohol into your body. But if you barf from smoking, you coughed too hard and inhaled too much improperly dried commercial weed and if you got really too fucked up off it, it is not meant for everyone, but some are just retarded and don’t grasp the buzz. Some folks who can do 24 beers, 1 bottle of whiskey, 2 packs of Tobacco who weighs 160-170 lbs and still go for an 8 ball of coke in one night can’t handle one toke of weed. Some are just Paranoid!!!!! But not paranoid on booze, not paranoid and cautious on the road while driving drunk. But stoners are careful on the road. NON-Paranoid Stimulants and Booze makes a real ego on the road. The time warp is the real effect that is advantageous for driving, the alert and noticeable surroundings. Timewarp might sound weird for OK as a driving thing but, you’ll catch every little move by all the other drivers in a naturally flowing intense entrance of information and react quick if necesary and stay calm if necessary. You can feel things more intense so the ground level, wind and everything is fine tuned. if you learn how to enjoy that buzz, you could be a race car driver. But uh, we ain’t allowed on public roads. Drunks do it!

  4. Anonymous on

    People are already high at work tbh.

  5. Adam on

    Well, I would normally debate the issue of losing ones’ “faculties” to a spliff, but for the sake of your argument it is perfectly okay for an employer not to hire a medical patient who will be operating dangerous machinery.

    I personally would judge them individually, but non-smokers lack the practical experience to do so; currently, if someone is prescribed painkillers, I believe they are forbidden to operate heavy machinery (I know it is definitely recommended against; as for labour law, I am not sure.) The current law would extend to medical use of marijuana, providing a caveat for the speculative employer.

  6. Adam on

    I was going to chime in about how I would smoke pot 2-3 times a day in a pipe while working at a call centre. I was especially paranoid and would hide under a bridge near the building where the “4:20” train (official name, no joke) would go by. I recall one week where I smoked three times each day, every break. You really couldn’t smell anything else, and I worked there for 15 months before I quit. Never an issue.

    Every time I came back, my call quality was improved and somehow people just wanted to complete my surveys more often. I just had a more personable disposition… I could just sort of tell what tones and inflections would work best with each person.

    I use it to treat serotonin syndrome. I got that from a childhood prescription, so if anyone says they have a problem with that, the way I see it is “tough shit.” Marijuana has never created an inebriation for me; I can use it an any situation with completely predictable results.

  7. Anonymous on

    just go ahead and legalize it! :)

  8. Dale allo on

    it is different than alcohol its alot easier to hide being stoned than drunk for many and if you vaporize its probably harder to detect on someones breath. the effects are different too so its worth discussing not everyone understands cannabis and what it does if you’ve never tried it before you’re bound to be worried about it being introduced into legal society. In the end hopefully they’ll come to the right conclusion.

  9. Reverend Draco (First Pagan Science Church) on

    Are there no depths the Prohibitionistas won’t sink to in their insane drive to Control everyone?

    You couldn’t pay me to partake at work – it’s a matter of Professional Pride on my part. . . I’m one of the best there is at what I do, and I couldn’t be that good if I was high at work. . .
    Is it possible that someone with a boring or useless job might want to escape the appalling drudgery of their job? Yes, it is possible – it’s equally as possible that some of those same people are currently using alcohol to do so, since alcohol is legal.
    Which is why most, if not all, businesses have policies regarding coming to work inebriated or getting loaded at work – and I don’t see this changing in the face of legal Cannabis.

    This entire “debate” is fearmongering at best, and those who promote it should be Publicly Ridiculed at every opportunity.

  10. Kelly L. White on

    That is why marijuana is illegal in the first place- those who oppose this, they truly believe we are all unprincipled, immoral, spineless hippies (Their word, not mine) who are just waiting to start a huge, never ending drug party. They’ve got issues, but they won’t see it. We can’t let them continue to legislate their psychosis.

  11. Kelly L. White on

    That is why marijuana is illegal in the first place- those who oppose this, they truly believe we are all unprincipled, immoral, spineless hippies (Their word, not mine) who are just waiting to start a huge, never ending drug party. They’ve got issues, but they won’t see it. We can’t let them continue to legislate their psychosis.

  12. Kelly L. White on

    That is why marijuana is illegal in the first place- those who oppose this, they truly believe we are all unprincipled, immoral, spineless hippies (Their word, not mine) who are just waiting to start a huge, never ending drug party. They’ve got issues, but they won’t see it. We can’t let them continue to legislate their psychosis.

  13. Thomas on

    I live in Sweden where marijuana is VERY illegal :( Seriously, who honestly believe that people will show up at work high?! Alcohol is legal, is it a big problem people showing up at work drunk??? Very simple, just apply the same rules regarding working and marijuana as for alcohol. This shouldn´t be a problem even worth mentioning.

  14. dimebag on

    why do these stupid senerios come about?there are already people who smoke at work.wat a bunch of crappy propraganda,scare tactics,just like when they said that if weed is legalized then there will be more high people on the road,more access to the kids and now this!.dont believe the hype,people already smoke at work,people already drive stoned and there is already teen drug dealers!people act like like this is rocket science,treat it like alcohol.u dont have to have a phd to figure it out.i read sumthing so dumb,”how r the police gonna know if your high when you get pulled over”the same way they do now,by smell,by ur eyes,by ur behavior and by the smell of your fingers.i talk to alot of cops on this subject and there are ways,they just choose to scare everyone.people have been driving stoned since the invention of the car but all of sudden this is sumthing new!you have to be kidding me.as far as smokin at work.sum people might,sum people might not because of drug testing,sum people might not cause they cant work properly.its all about that one person.i smoke everynight but dont work high cause i cant do a proper job!sumone else might be differnt.ITS ALL ABOUT PERSONAL FREEDOM AND CHOICE>which adults should have in this great country of mine. keep smokin and keep fightin for the plant and of course FREE MARC EMERY WHO SHOULDNT BE IN PRISON BECAUSE THERE IS THOUSANDS OF SEED VENDORS ONLINE BUT HE IS THE ONE THAT WENT TO JAIL AND TOMMY CHONG WENT THROUGH THE SAME THING I LOVE MY COUNTRY

  15. Anonymous on

    I dunno what part of the country you live, but in the south where I am everyone already smokes on the job. That is, the more general jobs. I haven’t noticed any others yet. By general I mean: Call centers, mcdonalds, toys r us, walmart, etc. Hell I was at walmart late at night tripping off the red eyes of some of the employees. Mind you I was high myself lol.

    At one call center everytime people would go on a break they would all smoke outside. The paranoid ones would go on the side but most would stay in the front. And when they went back the whole place smelled like it. It’s just the bosses are people 2, and they probably smoked also.

    Also bigger chains (wont name for obvious reasons) have the rule of “just dont come to work high” meaning they wont drug test you unless you give them a reason.

  16. undrgrndgirl on

    you can titrate edible cannabis too…the trick is to start with a very, very small amount, then add to it after an hour, and an hour after that and so on…yes, it’s tempting to stuff a giant brownie in your face, but that’s when you run into problems…also practicing on your own time will help you know how much you need…

  17. undrgrndgirl on

    …that phrase has always made me shake my head and roll my eyes…a true drug-free workplace would be free of caffeine (which was almost made illegal in 1937), aspirin, tylenol, and all of myriad of prescription and over the counter medications we human beings use…i found it especially ironic when the pharmacy i once worked at observed a “drug free america week”…but we kept selling drugs…

  18. undrgrndgirl on

    most (if not all) workplaces in california are smoke-free…

  19. undrgrndgril on

    prop 19 will no more increase cannabis consumption at work any more than legal alcohol means people are boozing it up at work…long gone are the days of the three martini lunch and they aren’t going to be resurrected and replaced with the three bong hit lunch…as to people who use cannabis for pain control, what’s the problem with that? should people not take aspirin or tylenol at work? and trust me there are plenty of people legally taking vicodin, oxycodone and other opiates while working and driving (given that one develops a functional tolerance to these drugs)…get over it already!

  20. mary james on

    i had a look and there are plenty of robust “stoner” comments recently.

    i’m thinking positive, our case has never been better put or understood. just got to keep correcting those lies though i suppose.

  21. Anonymous on

    I can’t believe I wasted my time reading this article… Besides the fact it’s from the good ol’ U.S. of A

  22. Whimsy on

    I agree that a line needs to be drawn. It’s argued by some that alcohol calms their nerves, but a doctor who has teh smell of a 20oz beer wouldn’t inspire confidence in me if they were set to perform surgery on me. Likewise, a construction worker who is stoned while operating a crane isn’t my idea of safety.

    However the critics are either ignoring or don’t know that there are salivary tests which are capable of showing recent use of cannabis. It’s relatively non-invasive and can show whether someone has recently smoked (i.e within the last few hours). They do not look for metabolites, but for THC itself.

  23. Dale allo on

    I don’t see there being a whole new batch of pot smokers once its fully legal its the same people who were coming to work stoned before that will do it after. some can handle it some cant i certainly couldnt work stoned or even a little buzzed. some jobs can be done stoned though and some people can work perfectly well when high i think it depends on the person and the strain they smoke and the job they’re doing but i agree i dont want my doctor or driver or anyone in charge of safety to be high its hard enough to trust sober people. it should be treated as alcohol if you’re at work and under the influence you get the same punishment a drunk person would get. i dont understand it myself but i admit there are stoners out there who can smoke a big fat joint and manage to do really difficult work that involves thinking i couldnt do it and im sure theres many others who can’t either. bottom line though legalized pot will do more good than harm to society it’s not all gravy though.

  24. Anonymous on

    I understand everyone is frustrated by the silliness of this article and of course every employer in America has the right to have a drug free workplace. But this article is really causing a commotion on the NBC home page and the prohibitionists are running away with it. Please take a moment to get outside our beloved CC “echo chamber” and post some sensible arguments alongside this ridiculous article. The link is here…

    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics/Group-Prop-19-Would-Mean-Pot-Smoking-at-Work-100625869.html

  25. Mat on

    I don’t see these people having problems with people taking pharma drugs on the job. That is ok. People are tired and that can affect their work. We let people drink and drive legally but yet there is no tolerance for people who use cannabis. Arguably driving stoned is not that bad and could even be safer than being sober..according to some studies. I just don’t see any logic to this article and their concerns. Yes the salve or medicated lotions do not get you high so that would be an advantage to people that have arthritis or other ailments that can affect the ability to move and work. Thanks for reading this.

  26. Anonymous on

    actually it would be no dif than the 3 martini lunch

  27. mary james on

    it’s all a matter of degree, isn’t it? as an air traffic controller i never smoked anywhere near work time although there were mornings when the whole shift was hungover. subsequently i switched careers and became a tv cameraperson where it was common to have a small toke now and then.

    if your work isn’t compromised then there should be no problem with responsible use. chances are that management will go out for lunch and have a glass of wine or beer, smokers will likely behave similarly.

    it’s time that prohibitionists realised that you can smoke a small amount and not be stoned.

    work is a contract, i give 100% during my allotted hours and the medicine in my body is my own business whether it is coldcure, prescription drugs or cannabis. if any of these impaired my performance i would adjust my lifestyle so that my work was still fully efficient and i remained employed.

    love & peace. mary.

  28. Anonymous on

    So let me get this straight: you’re against repealing the stupid, failed, completely disastrous drug laws that enrich cartels, drain government resources and bring feudal warfare onto our streets, just because some stoners aren’t satisfied with taking a few baby steps in the right direction and then calling it a day. Is that about right?

    The entire system of drug laws in this country needs to be repealed, they’ve caused enough damage, they’ve put too many innocent people in jail, they’ve ruined too many lives. Too many careers and too many families have been sacrificed on the altar of our self-righteousness and legalistic mindset. Our drug laws have given rise to criminal organizations nobody could have dreamed of 70 years ago. Did you know how gangsters made their money 100 years ago? Outside of prostitution, they made most of their money sticking up wagon drivers for their cargo or running 2 dollar bets on rat baiting. They weren’t running worldwide criminal organizations, living in mansions, ordering the severed heads of government officials, destabilizing governments or having skirmishes with the Mexican army and mostly kicking their asses.

    If, by some infinitesimally narrow chance, our voters and the people they elect somehow grow a brain and move to legalize, tax and regulate all drugs as well as prostitution, the cartels would fall like houses of cards.

  29. Anonymous on

    DRIVING HIGH IS GREAT, WORKING HIGH IS GREAT, EATING HIGH IS GREAT, LIVING HIGH IS GREAT, ALL BETTER THAN THE REST, amazingly enhanced for the advantages, but DRUNK = PUKE, SMASH, CRASH, PISS, SEIZE!!!!!_!_!_!_!_
    REWARD OF DRUGS IS CONSIDERED ABUSE, smoke before work, not necessarily at work, every cigarette smoker is on a cocaine-like addiction stimulant buzz, technically everyone is a crackhead for nicotine, don’t forget the trembling hands of all the caffeine from coffee everyone drinks everyday, all day, anxious artificial energy, wired at work!!!!!!! Chocolate bars, mmm, sugar. Stoned at work is calm cool and collective, creative and conceptual, cough cough cough, slow motion, days go long or short, whatever timewarp you’re in that day, enjoy the day, don’t hate it. Depends on the job obviously. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE WHILE HIGH!!!!!!!!! Sex is amazing, drive them wild!!!
    TELL YOUR BOSS TO SUCk YOUR KNOB!
    COUGH COUGH COUGH
    SCREW all the LAWS about to be MADE…. smoke one!!!!!

  30. Alex on

    Does any of you show up at work drunk? Of course not! So why the hell anyone thinks it will be diffrent for cannabis users? And even if the worst happens – what would you better enjoy as your employee – a total drunk, or a peaceful pot-head? All this goes to say, in terms of working relations – weed=alchohol, dont drink at work, same for pot – and your ok with me, and the most part of others. Finish your hard day at work and light up a doobie – as a reward. Peace!

  31. james on

    I don’t think that ingesting cannabis only is a good idea because when you ingest cannabis you have no control over the effect it has on you. when you smoke cannabis you can titrate it in a manner that you can medicate yourself just enough to where your not going to be oblivious to your surroundings and be more dangerous to yourself and/or others.
    my opinion is that people should just not even bother with consuming cannabis throughout the day(at work)and if they cant get by without it in an eight hour period then they have a serious problem.
    on the other hand if you have a genuine medical reason ex:glaucoma,cancer, severe pain, and the like, then it should be a discussion between the employee and the employer.
    but consuming cannabis inside your own home should not be anyone’s business not even your employer!

  32. PeyotePal on

    people don’t risk their livelihood … and won’t risk their job.

    how many people do you see coming into work DRUNK?!!

  33. PeyotePal on

    This article is STUPID.

    I hate this kind of journalism for the sake of sensationalism.

    THIS never happened for alcohol AND it won’t for cannabis.

    Can we just get on with getting this medicine legally into society and drop all of the stupidity?

    Please?!

  34. Tony Aroma on

    If it’s not illegal, what’s to keep people from smoking all the time? I’m sure everyone in CA is just waiting for the law to change. In fact, by that same argument, now that medical cannabis is legal in DC, what’s to stop DEA agents from getting their cards and getting high all the time? Or what about the Drug Czar himself? Or the president? Surely they are no better than the rest of us.

    Next time you hear someone say they fear everyone will be high at work if cannabis is legalized, ask them how high THEY plan to be on THEIR job. Surely if they expect everyone to lose control if cannabis is legalized, why wouldn’t they too do the same?

  35. Anonymous on

    …sooo dumb… Hella people are high at work every day and no one knows it, because they’re responsible about “how incapacitated they are”! I work 2 full time jobs and i consume cannabis from sun up till sundown EVERY DAY, FOR THE LAST 11 yrs! I have IBS and if it weren’t for cannabis Id be in the restroom every 15 min…I work in the food industry as well as painting houses and that’s 2 jobs that don’t really allow me to stop every 15 min to crap :(

    About 80% of the people you know probably smoke pot and you just don’t know it…. get over it!!!! STONERS MAKE THE WORLD GO ROUND!!!!!!!!

  36. Anonymous on

    First off I think your comment is ridiculous and you clearly don’t have any common sense in your head WHATSOEVER!

    Now to state my reasons :

    1. Alcohol is a legal and more mind altering drug than marijuana, yet do people abuse that at work everyday? no.
    2. Employers of a company/workplace have the ability to make employees sign a contract forbidding them to smoke pot at work, so therefore that should not be a problem.
    3. If marijuana is legalized, the money generated in California, or wherever it happens to be legal will be MASSIVELY increased, due to a tax that Obama’s “puppet” government will place on weed, therefore creating more income for people who choose to farm the plant and also the government enforcing the tax.

    So in future use whatever sense you have to analyze a situation properly before condemming it with ridiculous reasons.

  37. Anonymous on

    EXACTLY im glad to see someone else feel the same way! People are never satisfied, it took 70 years to get medical marijuana decently legal and now their talking about making it LEGAL for everyone in some states and people have to keep adding on dumb laws. THIS IS EXACTLY why people want it to stay illegal. im not going to lie im a huge weed smoker and i want it to STAY illegal just for the fact people are too greedy and not satisfied with how things are working. they think OK it almost legal now lets see what else we can do….UH NO just fuckin let it be legal first and see how it works!!! After reading this article, i have my 2nd thoughts.

  38. Anonymous on

    Ok buddy, that just sounds like an addiction that you cant wait 6-8 hours to smoke? you HAVE to smoke at work that bad because you cant wait? People function WAY better sober. And im not saying you cant work high, but you just work better sober unless your a music artist or painter. Most jobs dont need stoned people walking around handing them their food or anything. GO TO WORK SOBER and GET HIGH AS A REWARD FOR YOUR HARD DAY AT WORK! Is it really that hard. Every time we get a little further to legaliztion someone makes up some ridiculous new part to the law. holy fuck, i can see all these dumb asses that make up these stupid ideas WILL be the reason it doesnt become legal. People are too selfish and greedy, always wanting more and more. Treat weed the same as alchohol and that was the whole idea in the first place! People are never satisfied, its fuckin sad.

  39. Anonymous on

    That is funny while I was reading this I was thinking the exact same thing. Does anyone have common sense any more? lol

  40. Anonymous on

    La Fiura:
    Maybe you could share with other readers what you do for a living ? Because if youre an airplane pilot I would certainly would not want to fly in your plane.But if youre a banana picker I would certainly keep eating bananas.Dig it ?

  41. Anonymous on

    now I am really starting to understand why marijuana is illegal and why Obama wants it to remain illegal.If people starts showing up at work “under the influence” or smoke a joint at break time forget it we are going nowhere as a competitive society producing goods and services.
    There is this old saying that says business and pleasure don’t mix. Why wont people keep it that way ?
    I consider myself extremely open to the Marijuana cause but if I was an entrepreneur I certainly would not tolerate an employee “at work” being stoned if only he or she could endanger other workers.What you do outside work is your own business I dont want to know but on the work premises
    forget it.So if people cheats or abuse the system,then Mr.Obama please keep marijuana illegal. It is going to be better for everyone to keep it that way on the long run. It is the cheaters and abusers as always who fuck up the system.

  42. MOTFA on

    I have seen it time and time again at so many different jobs and i would have to state that the aforementioned is pretty much right on the ball.

    Screw ups aren’t hard to point out at work because they are always screwing up!

  43. La Fiura on

    You can’t compare cannabis with alcohol in a job enviroment. Being smoked at job is absolutely manageable (for some people is advisable). Being drunk at work is insane. I smoke ganja every single day of my life (even when i’m working) and I’m as responsible as ever, and I had no troubles with my bosses or anybody. YES ON PROP 19!!!!!!

  44. Anonymous on

    THE SUMMER OF SARS,THAT NASTY VIRUS THAT KILLED A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE. WEED WAS LEGAL FOR 6 MONTHS IN TORONTO, AND ALL OF ONTARIO. I SAW SUITS ON BAY STREET SMOKING UP, ON THERE BREAK. INFACT I SAW ALOT PEOPLE GETTING HIGH ON THE JOB. YET, THERE WASN’T EVEN ONE INCIDENT OF INJURY ON THE JOB, OR VIOLENCE, OR CAR ACCIDENTS, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. EVEN AT THE SARS CONCERT, THE BIGGEST GATHERING OF PEOPLE IN HISTORY, I WAS THERE, IT WAS SO PEACEFUL, PEOPLE WERE SMOKING WEED EVERY, COPS DIDNT CARE, AND THE WHOLE THING WAS A HUGE SUCCESS!! LOOK AT MARC EMERY, A SUCCESSFUL BUISNESS MAN, WHO PROBABLY SMOKES A TON A DAY!! JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU PEOPLE CAN SMOKE WEED AND STILL BE SUCCESSFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  45. Anonymous on

    WHY IS IT EVERYTIME WE CLOSE TO LEGALIZATION SOMEONE HAS TO KEEP PUSHING OTHER THINGS. THAT IS THE DUMBEST THING!! YOU WOULDNT LET PEOPLE GET DRUNK AT WORK SO DONT GET HIGH. AND YOU SHOULDNT BE ALOUD TO BE HIGH DRIVING EITHER….JUST LIKE ALCHOHOL. COME ON PEOPLE, ITS COMMON SENSE. WHOEVERTHINKS OF THESE RIDICULOUS NEW ADD ONS TO THE LAWS ARE GOING TO RUIN IT FOR ALL OF US! THE SAME GOES WITH DC GIVING DISCOUNTS TO POOR PEOPLE? WHOS DUMB ASS IDEA WAS THAT? WHAT EVER HAPPEN TO TREATING EVERYONE THE SAME? YOU WOULD SELL A TV FOR A CHEAPER PRICE BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS TOO POOR. I SWEAR THIS COUNTRY HAS NO COMMON SENSE AT ALL! ITS EMBARASSING! WITH IDEAS LIKE THESE, I REALLY CANT SEE LEGALIZATION HAPPENING!

  46. dobroplaya on

    I used to smoke weed from day light til dark, I’ve worked hard physical labor jobs all of my life. what work when your high is, is a buzz kill. you start the work day feeling real good and high but about a half hour into it the buzz is fading away. this is based on my experiences and having been used to smoking all the time. now for someone that does not smoke regularly and can handle smoking and working at the same time that may be different. it also depends on how smart and since able someone is. a dumb ass is just a dumb ass regardless of whether they are high or not, they are an accident waiting to happen anyway.

  47. Hoku on

    Eighty five percent of the population are responsible professionals who prefer to keep a clear head through their work day. The remaining 15% have always had substance abuse issues and legalizing one of those substances is not going to change their habits very much. If you are in the 85%, attempting to do your job under a fog of altered perceptions is NOT even a tempting proposition.
    Employers will set the rules for their workforce. If worker is stooooopid enough to punch in with bloodshot eyes and pakalolo stink breath then they get what they deserve. It’s just plain common sense that you don’t show up for work impaired. Serious medical use is another matter all together. Medical use should be treated like prescription drug use. But employers can say, “Okay then, better ingest instead of smoke.” Second hand cannabis smoke is just as annoying as tobacco smoke and should not be tolerated in public environments.

  48. Paul Goodman on

    Non-cannabis consumers will do whatever it takes to kill the bill. Sad.

  49. Anonymous on

    +1 Bhonze. I couldn’t have said it any better.

  50. Mrs. Rat'sRectum on

    Recreational use of cannabis does not have to be allowed if the employer wants it that way, during work time. The employer who doesn’t want his workers going out for drinks on break or lunch can have the same policy of sobriety during the hours at work. Medical use is a stickier subject, but in any case if the employee has to use it as medicine during work I would say s/he needs to wait a certain amount of time after its effective and has her/his faculties about again and waits until it’s safe to drive or operate equipment, like go do something else till then. Some employers won’t care because of the type of work. Who cares if migrant workers are out picking in the fields in the hot sun and want to smoke some recreational weed to handle the baking heat.

    These prohibitionists are grasping at straws. Let’s make sure they have only straw men examples and no actual cases and people they can refer to.

  51. Bhonze on

    This is so stupid!!! It would be just like alcohol; don’t go to work Stoned and don’t smoke at work… I thought we were RESPONSIBLE adults?