Jack Herer’s Hempire Under Siege

Jack Herer is a living legend of the cannabis legalization movement. As author of the seminal masterwork The Emperor Wears No Clothes, and as an activist for 38 years, he has inspired many of the marijuana and hemp community’s greatest leaders and helped enlighten countless thousands to the futility and injustice of America’s war on cannabis.

On July 15, 2000, Jack had a heart attack and stroke while on stage at the Bill Conde World Hemp Festival in Oregon, and was rushed to the hospital. Initially he was unable to speak or move much of his body but after several years of recovery, he was back in action, speaking at events and working on projects. Jack and his wife of ten years, Jeannie, both attributed his successful recuperation in part to Rick Simpson’s Hemp Oil, and in recent months Jack said he felt stronger than ever.

Sadly, Jack had another heart attack backstage at Oregon’s Hempstalk on September 12, 2009, and again suffered anoxic brain injury leaving him with severe speech and physical impediments.

He was put in a medically induced coma for a few days, and was in the intensive care unit for almost three weeks. Friends and relatives spoke to and played songs for him at his bedside in the weeks afterward as he began to show signs of recovery. Paul Stanford, executive director of the THCF, told the Salem-News.com that Jack had “moved his fingers, turned his head from side to side, stretched, yawned, and opened his eyes.”

“Given the circumstances, Jack’s recovery to this point is astounding,” Stanford said. “Last week, he was in a deep coma with little brain activity.”

Under the authority of his wife Jeannie, Jack was eventually moved to the Avamere Riverpark care facility in mid-October to receive nursing attention and physical rehab.

Though the Hemperor seemed to be on the road to recovery, trouble was brewing in the Hempire.

A bizarre attack came in the form of an erroneous article published by the Examiner.com reporting Jack had died. The article, by an anti-drug writer named John English, was removed from the site shortly afterward.

On November 2, 2009, Salem-News.com’s Bonnie King reported that Jack had returned to the hospital and was diagnosed with bronchitis. She also reported Jeannie was unhappy with a decision by Avamere to acknowledge a Power of Attorney (POA) that gave medical authority to two of Jack’s assistants, Chuck Jacobs and Joy Graves. The article explained that the move came after Joy noticed a Do Not Resuscitate order on Jack’s medical chart, apparently approved of by Jeannie:

“Do Not Resuscitate”, the nurse explained, means that should Jack have a heart attack, he would not receive CPR, they would not make every effort to save him. They would let him die in peace. “Do Not Transport” was also checked, which means there would be no ambulance ride to the hospital.

The order was a surprise to Joy, and a shock after all the effort to save his life. She inquired as to how it came to be, and how it could be changed. Jeannie Herer had signed the order, so it was up to her to change it. Unsatisfied with that conclusion and in an attempt to ensure Jack’s ability to survive a future health emergency, she revealed that she held Jack’s Power of Attorney.

The care center took some time to deliberate the ramifications of the situation, bringing in their legal team, and determined that the document was legal and binding.

The DNR order was reversed.

King wrote in her article, “the DNR order reversal may well have saved Jack’s life”, as the “DNR would have made the ambulance ride to the ER impossible.”

The story sparked flames of controversy and divided many of Jack’s friends and supporters into two camps: those who supported Jeannie and those who supported Joy and Chuck.

The Power of Attorney and The Most High

In the years before his second heart attack, Jack was working on a new book called The Most High: Plant Secrets of the Gods and Explorations Revealing the End of the World as You Know It.

In May 2004 Jack told The Free Press that Amanita muscaria, a psychoactive mushroom, was the “secret” to his recovery:

Jack said that about a year ago he had undergone an initial, intensely religious Amanita Muscaria experience. This mushroom ritual brought on a strong trance that lasted for 12 hours. During this period Jack feels that he met god. Since then he has medicated with Amanita Muscaria and marijuana almost daily. Jack’s daily regiment consists of small doses (.2 gram) of Amanita Muscaria every few hours throughout the day. These relatively small doses of have very subtle psychedelic effects for him but they greatly enhances his ability to speak.

After years of researching and working with other authors, Jack was convinced that Amanita muscaria played heavily in religious history. His new book would document biblical references to the sacred mushroom and show that it was, in essence, God.

Chuck Jacobs was Jack’s longtime friend, live-in caretaker, and driver while the two had been on the road to several Hemp festivals throughout the summer. Joy Graves, Jack’s friend of several years, had manned Hempfest booths and worked side-by-side with the activists.

According to Joy and Chuck, Jack was adamant about publishing The Most High but was worried that his wife Jeannie would attempt to stop its release if something happened to him.

“Jack knew that Jeannie hated the book and it was well-apparent at the household,” Chuck told Cannabis Culture. “She did not like the book, and that was that.”

According to nearly all sources contacted by this reporter (some who asked to remain anonymous), it was common knowledge that Jeannie disliked Jack’s association with co-author James Arthur, who had once worked on the book with Jack but later committed suicide in prison. Jeannie thought the printing of a book associated with Arthur would harm her husband’s credibility, sully his legacy, and possibly harm sales of The Emperor Wears No Clothes.

Bonnie King wrote in the Salem-News that Jack and Jeannie’s troubles ran deeper than just a dispute over the book:

In early summer, Jeannie and Jack went their separate ways. Not surprisingly, they are both overwrought with obligations and a packed schedule, and she hoped to inspire Jack to take it easy. She says she believed they would reunite at the end of the season. Jack had Jeannie’s name taken off his lease in July. By many accounts, they were separated.

“There were definitely problems [with Jack and Jeannie’s relationship],” Chuck said. “But I never heard anything about a divorce.”

Jack was so worried about the future of The Most High that he began to draw up papers for a Power of Attorney that would give authority over all his dealings – the book, medical issues, and anything else – to Joy Graves and Chuck Jacobs (click here to see the Power of Attorney form).

“All through Seattle we fought about it because he wanted me as Power of Attorney,” Joy Graves said in an interview with Cannabis Culture. “I told him that I didn’t want to get involved in that kind of stuff.[…] He kept saying ‘I’m running out of time’ and told me he felt Jeannie was going to try to get him deemed incompetent in court to prevent him from putting the book out.”

“Jack has been researching the mushroom book since 1983 when he first read John Allegro’s The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross,” Jeannie Herer explained in an e-mail to Cannabis Culture. “I started researching with him in 1996, but we were never able to put it all together before Jack’s major stroke in 2000. He couldn’t speak at all for two years. Then James Arthur a.k.a. James Dugovic came to our house and told us that if Jack would move to his house in North Fork, he would help him with the book and it would be finished in three months. It ended up being 13 months and only three chapters were done. James committed suicide in jail, and obviously couldn’t work on the book any more. I didn’t see any way to separate him from the book because Jack couldn’t write at the time the book was written, and he was still struggling to speak. It’s not the same book Jack was working on before he met James. Jack can’t read the book himself and every time I’ve tried to read it to him, he falls asleep. I know how important it is to Jack to get this book out and I wasn’t going to try to stop him. I just knew it wasn’t going to be good for Jack’s reputation and I made my feelings clear to him.”

Jan Irvin, another co-author who was working on the book with Jack up until just a few weeks before his latest heart attack, told Cannabis Culture the book was unfinished and needed many months of work to be completed.

“Fifty percent of it isn’t print ready – it’s not even close,” he said. “It’s just a bunch of notes and stuff thrown together. It would be wrong to publish a book that is not finished. If it’s printed the way it is, any academic who read it would laugh at it. It wouldn’t give Jack his due respect for 20 years of research on this.”

Irvin said that he met with Jack recently to discuss the book.

“I went over to his room where he and Chuck Jacobs were staying,” Jan said. “We were talking about the book and he said he wanted me to finish it right now! I told him that I have bills to pay and I can’t just give up everything I do and work on the book for six months. ‘Goddamnit, you have to because I don’t have time’ he told me. He knew that his days were numbered. And then he looks over at Chuck and says ‘and I’m giving Chuck Jacobs Power of Attorney over the book.’ When I asked why he said, ‘because I trust him.'”

Despite the book being a work in progress, Jack was apparently serious about the transfer of authority to Joy and Chuck and had the papers drawn up.

A clause on the Power of Attorney form specifically giving Chuck and Joy authority states:

TO AUTHORIZE, PRESERVE, AND PROTECT INTERESTS IN THE WRITTEN WORKS UNPUBLISHED HEREIN REFERED [SIC] BY ‘THE MOST HIGH PLANT SECRETS OF THE GODS AND EXPLORATIONS REVEALING THE END OF THE WORLD, AS YOU KNOW IT’ SO THAT IT MAY BE COMPLETED AND PUBLISHED AS IT IS MY WILL AND INTENT.

A letter written by the notary public (and acquired by Cannabis Culture), who witnessed the signing reads, “Mr. Herer stated to me that he was most concerned with protecting an unfinished manuscript which he felt was in danger of interference from his wife as he was soon to be divorced and had been separated for some months. He also advised that he felt that the medical documentation was important as well as he was soon to be traveling out of the country for business for some time.”

On September 12, just hours before he collapsed, Jack met with Joy and a notary public and put his signature to paper.

Eve Lentz, The Do Not Resuscitate Order, and Hemp Oil

Eve Lentz was a close friend of Jack for many years who became closer in the months leading up to his most recent heart attack. In an interview with Cannabis Culture, Eve said Jack made clear to her that Jeannie had left him in July and the marriage was over for good.

“I do not date married men; I do not have anything to do with married men. Jack has been a dear friend of mine since 1996, I see him all the time, and I’ve traveled with him and know his crew. He took me out for dinner after Seattle Hempfest this year and told me his wife had left him and he wanted me to come down and be his secretary, editor of the book The Most High, and his girlfriend. He told me that Jeannie knew that I was coming and that she was alright with it.”

Eve moved into Jack’s Lake County, California home in late August 2009. She said she was very much in love with him and admitted the two had become intimate. However, as time progressed, Eve said she became aware Jack had not been completely honest and realized he wanted to keep their relationship a secret from Jeannie, so she broke it off.

“I didn’t want to be a mistress,” Eve said. “I talked to Jack and we agreed that I don’t want to live with him until he figures out his marriage problems. If he has to lie to her about it, I just can’t handle that.”

Shortly afterward, Jack suffered the attack and was back in the hospital.

On September 26, Chuck signed a contract giving Eve editorial control of The Most High, agreeing to pay her “$10/hour or 20% royalties of the book, whichever is greater, plus any commission or profits on any sales she promotes for the book.” According to Chuck, the contract also stated that nothing was guaranteed.

Joy Graves said she was shocked when she noticed the DNR order on Jack’s medical chart and revealed her authority as POA to have it removed. Jeannie said she had been convinced by hospital doctors to sign the paper.

“They wanted me to sign a DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) form,” Jeannie wrote to Cannabis Culture in an e-mail. “The doctor explained that if he had another heart attack, he wouldn’t be able to survive it but if I didn’t sign the paper, they would still have to pound on his chest and possibly crack his chest and also shock him, which they had already done at the festival and he still had burn marks on his chest. He said that when people die a natural death, endorphins are released that make them more comfortable at the end but not when you do that.

“I agreed that if he had another heart attack while he was in there, they were not to torture him that way. But in all other ways, they were to take the best care and do everything they could to save him if something happened. There are several parts to a DNR and you can customize it how you want it.

“It did not prevent transportation for hospital care in other situations, nor did it prevent tube feeding (which he is still on), or ventilation (which he had at Legacy, and has had again because he has had pneumonia). He would have received treatment for infection, pneumonia, diabetes, and all of the complications he has experienced, with it in place. Joy did not need to contra-indicate it; in fact she created a situation in which he would have been full code if he did have another heart attack, and he would undoubtedly experienced much pain with little chance of survival.”

Cannabis Culture contacted Avamere Riverpark for confirmation, but the care facility would not disclose any information due to privacy concerns.

Eve was also at the care facility with Jack and witnessed him saying words to others in the room and on the telephone, and even captured video footage of Jack mouthing the words to the song “You Are My Sunshine” and pressing a button on a hand-held toy that lights up and spins.

Eve said Jack was very responsive when she or Joy was alone with him, but that he would clam up when others like Jeannie or Chuck were in the room. She also said that Jeannie’s visits eventually became disruptive and a problem for Jack.

“She started asking Jack ‘So who do you want to be with? If you want me to leave then I’ll leave, but tell me.’ So then he closed his eyes and she said, ‘stop playing possum with me! I know you’re awake!’ And then she just kept badgering him. All of a sudden he just curled up in a ball, turned to his right and started crying. She came over and started kissing and hugging him and he yelled — and this is the first and only thing that he has yelled so loud that everyone could here him — he said my name ‘Eve!’ really loud. A nurse that was out in the hallway runs in and says, ‘That’s it, I heard that!'”

At the same time animosity was building between Joy and Jeannie, and it was erupting into a war of words online. Jeannie had long been responsible for maintaining Jack’s web presence through his website and MySpace page and was using the platform to publish her perspective of events.

On October 31, before Bonnie King’s Salem-News article was published, Jeannie posted a long message online summing up events and giving a recent history of her life with Jack. In the message she also talked about her struggle with Joy and Chuck:

At some point, the social worker told me a woman I’d never met or heard of before, Joy Graves, had shown up with a medical power of attorney that Jack allegedly signed right before his heart attack, making Joy and Chuck the people in charge of his medical decisions. Their legal department said it was incomplete and probably forged and wanted to talk to Joy about it but she never did go talk to them. They decided it wasn’t a legal document-

When it was time for Jack to be released from the hospital, I wanted to take him back to California but was told it would cost me $6,000 to transport him there because his insurance didn’t cover it. We get by month to month and don’t have savings or property so instead I paid $600 for him to be moved to Eugene, where his daughter and some of our good friends live.

He went to Hillside Rehab but they weren’t ready for him when he got there. They didn’t have his insulin or diabetic food for his tube. His blood sugar was over 400 for two days. On the third day I asked them to take him to a hospital. When he got to Sacred Heart Hospital his blood sugar was 488.[…]

Joy Graves refuses to return my calls but I’ve heard the reason she’s doing this to Jack is because of the DNR. I don’t know what the truth is.

After three days in the hospital he was stable again and moved to Avamere Riverpark Rehab. A few days later he fell out of bed about 4:00 in the morning. He had lumps on his head and bruises on his eyelids. He seemed pretty traumatized for about three days and then started feeling better.

After being here with him every day since September 13, I needed to go back to California, clear out the Santa Rosa house, get some paperwork I needed for Jack’s insurance, get our cat, my computer and some clothes because I knew we were going to be in Eugene for a few months at least. I went to do this last weekend.

I asked Elvy Musikka and Sharon Cohen to please check on Jack a few times while I was gone for three days. They called me when I was driving back and said the nursing home had kicked them out because Joy Graves had shown up with the paper and they accepted it as being legal and there was a list of people who could see Jack and they weren’t on it. I called the nursing home and they confirmed it and said I wasn’t on the list either.

After Jack’s heart attack, several people said to me that he recently told them he was heartbroken that I had left him. But I hadn’t left him. I was waiting for him to come home after the Portland festival and he knew that.

Now Eve is saying that’s not what he wanted and he planned to break up with me. She is trying to get me to believe that Jack talks to her at the nursing home when I’m not there. As far as I can tell, Jack is still trying to talk but isn’t able to yet. The people who run the nursing home won’t tell me if this is true or not. I just want Jack to get better so I can find out what he really wants. I love him very much and he’ll always be my hero.

Jack gave me a purpose in life. He made me believe that we can really change the world with hemp and everyone will be happier and healthier for it. I believe that and I’ll keep working for it, no matter what.

Upset by these and other comments, many of Jack’s supporters, including some of Jack’s six children, were angry at what looked like a scam taking place. Understandably, many were concerned that a woman none of them had ever heard of was suddenly in control of Jack’s assets and health concerns while his wife cried foul.

Shortly after this message was published, Jeannie posted a host of documents including the POA with Chuck and Joy’s addresses in full view online, as well as a personal letter from Eve to Jack.

“It’s scary because they have been calling me out and sending me threats,” Joy said, “telling me to watch out and asking ‘why are you killing Jack?’ When Jeannie first posted there were over 20 calls within the first two hours threatening Avamere facility. They were going to blow it up, they were going to burn it down […] After that happened, the staff had a meeting and they told me straight up — over half the staff that deals with this ward doesn’t want Jack here. I pretty much got down on my knees and begged them please.”

“I disclaim any connection with anybody making any personal threats against Joy and Eve,” Jeannie told Cannabis Culture. “I don’t condone any such actions, and have not authorized or encouraged any such actions. I posted the documents about which there was so much publicity so that people who cared about Jack could see the relevant documents for themselves. I did not reveal any information about either of them which is not already publicly available, both online and in other public records.”

Though all parties involved initially agreed that Jack should be receiving hemp oil as a medicine, the care facility would not allow it. According to several sources there were covert attempts to give Jack the oil, one such incident apparently clogging his feeding tube. There were also rumors after Jack was briefly sent back to the hospital because someone had given him the oil as a suppository, causing him intestinal problems. Joy says that she eventually came to believe giving him the oil was the wrong thing to do until he was moved to a “420-friendly” facility.

The Restraining Orders

As the struggle between Joy and Jeannie escalated, Joy claims she was getting fed up with the threats, rumors of the hemp oil being wrongly administered, and what she considered disruptive behavior from Jeannie.

Adult Protective Services got wind of the situation and eventually interviewed both Joy and Chuck.

“At that point,” Joy said, “they brought it to my attention and said I needed to file an elderly and disabled retraining order against Jeannie because she was putting my life in danger with her Internet posts. They said because I’m terminally ill myself, I was eligible to get a restraining order on Jeannie.”

The restraining order was filed in an Oregon court, and Jeannie was served on November 3, making it impossible for her to visit her husband in the care facility or post anything on his websites. Joy’s move to have Jeannie removed from the equation threw gasoline on an already raging fire.

Chuck Jacobs had been standing in for Jack on a European tour with Rick Simpson, but returned to the U.S. in the middle of a virtual firefight. Although Chuck and Jeannie’s relationship had been cold since the POA was revealed, he was beginning to have doubts about Joy and was upset that she had filed the restraining order without discussing it with him first.

“When I found out that Jeannie was banned from seeing Jack,” Chuck said, “and the fact that he was not getting his THC, and that Joy seemed to be okay with him not getting it, it just turned my stomach. And I kind of started seeing a vibration that I did not like. So, I had to put my foot down using my POA with the medical end of it and get rid of them, so the family could get back in.”

Chuck told Cannabis Cuture that he thought Jeannie’s so-called “disruptive” behavior was understandable considering the circumstances, and that it was, in his opinion, not enough to ban her from seeing her husband.

“I could imagine that there was probably enough drama within that setting — all of a sudden this other woman is there trying to take over — Jeannie has been with Jack since 1996, okay — I can imagine that things might have gotten worked up at a point or two.”

Chuck voiced his displeasure to Joy about the restraining order, but she would not be persuaded to drop it and a rift formed between the two.

“I totally felt comfortable with her until she started pulling all this shit,” Chuck said.

Though the relationship was becoming fractured, Joy and Chuck collaborated on filing the Jack Herer California Cannabis Hemp Initiative. As the divide between the two widened, Joy thought Chuck was not fulfilling his duties as Power of Attorney.

“I told Chuck I wanted him to handle all the business aspects and he didn’t do anything,” she said. “There’s people on the Internet now asking for the signature sheets for the initiative, he still hasn’t responded to them. There’s been no signatures and there’s been no money collected. He wasn’t doing anything.”

“I’m the one that was with Jack every single day,” Chuck said. “I took care of him and gave him his insulin everyday. I love him. All of a sudden these people step in and they think they know what’s going on? They think they know everything about Jack and his family and everything else? Fuck her.”

On November 10, a court dismissed the restraining order against Jeannie because Jack was not a citizen of Oregon. A few days later, Joy made a trip to California to put another restraining order on Jeannie and filed one against Chuck as well.

“She tried to get the state of Oregon to press charges against me and Jeannie for giving him THC,” Chuck said. “She filled out in the restraining order that we were giving him illegal substances. The Rick Simpson oil. You watch his last statement and tell me that you would deny this man THC. You watch any statement over the last two years and tell me that you would deny this man THC. She also filed abuse on an elder charges with the state of Oregon Adult Protective Services.”

Adult protective services was contacted by Cannabis Culture but refused comment on the case.

Jeannie was eventually served with a restraining order after a dramatic altercation on November 14, which she wrote about online. In the same message she mentioned she was being denied access to Jack and that Joy had filed a legal separation for Jack and Jeannie:

Because Joy has caused so many disturbances while I’ve been there, the facility is not allowing me to see Jack for now. Only Jack’s kids can see him. My attorney is doing what she can, as fast as she can, but court dates take time to come around.

Joy also went to Lake County, California and filed a legal separation from me for Jack on October 29. She gave the date of the end of our marriage as 7/7/09. If Jack had wanted a legal separation on 7/7/09, why didn’t he get it himself? He didn’t have the heart attack until September 12. Our 10-year anniversary was September 9. He was on the road but he called me and wished me a happy anniversary and told me he loved me and that he would be in Santa Rosa with me as soon as he was finished with the Portland hemp fest.

“Jack had Jeannie taken off his house lease in July,” Joy said. “He had written a letter saying his wife had moved out; that’s why I filed the separation for July 7.

Jack’s Recovery

By this time Avamere was allowing neither Joy nor Jeannie to see Jack, and only his children were allowed access.

On December 4, the restraining order placed against Jeannie was dismissed and she was finally allowed to see her husband.

“I saw him today,” she told Cannabis Culture. “He fell out of bed again this morning at 4:30 a.m. This is the second time that’s happened since he’s been moved to Riverpark. They still refuse to give him a bed with rails. Also, a few days ago, he was being turned in his bed and his arm got caught in his feeding tube and it was pulled out. It started bleeding and he was sent to the hospital again to have it repaired.

“He’s able to swallow a little better now but not well enough to have the feeding tube removed. He’s still trying to talk but isn’t able to yet. He can move his left arm but that’s about it.”

Jeannie also talked briefly about Jack’s current mental condition.

“Jack is minimally responsive,” she said, “with some visual tracking. He is trying to talk but can’t yet. I was with him in speech therapy today. The therapist tried to get him to repeat words that she was saying. He tried to repeat ‘hello’. She counted to 10 and he couldn’t repeat any of the numbers. She said the alphabet and he couldn’t repeat any of the letters. I haven’t heard her try to sing with him yet. A couple of weeks ago, I tried to get him to say ‘hemp oil’ and he did.”

“The whole thing is frustrating,” Joy said, “because I know Jack is in there a lot more than they think he is. The Hemperor is alive and well. He’s there. He’s having a hard time coming back out right now, but he’s there.”

According to Joy, while Jack was receiving care at the McKenzie-Willamette Medical Center in Springfield Chuck had a Do Not Resuscitate order placed back on Jack that still applies.

Documentation provided by Joy to Cannabis Culture states:

CODE STATUS HAS BEEN ADDRESSED WITH THE PATIENT’S POWER-OF-ATTORNEY, MR. ________, AND HE EXPRESSED LIMITED CODE. HE EXPRESSED THAT IT IS OKAY TO INTUBATE IN CASE OF RESPITORY FAILURE, BUT HE DEFINAITELY SAID NO TO RESUSCITATION IN CASE OF CARDIAC ARREST, SO NO CPR BUT OKAY WITH INTUBATION.

“I want that DNR order reversed immediately,” she said.

For the interim, calm has fallen across Jack Herer’s Hempire, though the battle for control continues quietly. Cannabis Culture confirmed with Jack’s son Mark Herer that he will be filing for conservatorship over Jack — if approved by the court, it would override the Power of Attorney.

Jack Herer has been a fighter his entire life, and he is still fighting. But he is not fighting alone – hundreds of supporters stand behind him. On December 4, THCF and NORML groups held a benefit for Jack at the Oregon Cannabis Café to raise money for Jacks medical expenses. The money will be put in a US Bank fund controlled by Jeannie and the family.

Keep fighting Jack.

Comments

77 Comments

  1. Anonymous on

    i never knew he had a heart attack but that may have been the reason the sarah silverman show wasnt making new episodes for a while

  2. Pat on

    I’m not big on all the drama but Jack doesn’t need it…give the guy what he needs and what he wants…YOUR SUPPORT IS GROWING EVERYDAY JACK!!..GET WELL SOON!

  3. THE INDIVIDUALS on

    His Son or his Wife should control his estate regardless of their decisions! Who are you? You are not Family Joy! If we were Jack we would want Marijauana regardless what anyone else thinks! And if we died we would want to die on Cannabis! Jesus wanted to save people and he got nailed to a cross! Stop playing Jesus and let the Family make the decisions concerning Jack right or wrong! The Son is the next Ruler if Jack is the Emperor and his wife is Queen! Who are you? Maybe you are trying to do right but it’s not your place! Face it these are Jacks last days! Let him go out High and let his Family live in peace without you spreading hate about Jack’s Wife and Son! Is he divorced or not? You sound like a girlfriend to us! What’s your true interest in Jack? Save the goodie two shoes bullshit for some lames! What are you after Joy? You want to save Jack? BULLSHIT!!!!!!

  4. THE INDIVIDUALS on

    If one of our parents were old like Jack we wouldn’t trust any papers he signed under these conditions. Sounds like a bad movie! We smell a rat!

  5. Eve Lentz on

    go to the link, below, for the new video/article of Jack Herer by Tim King of salem-News.com:

    http://salem-news.com/articles/december242009/jack_video_tk.php

    “The Story of Jack Herer and Hempstalk” (VIDEO) – Salem-News.Com

    For those of you who don’t know who Joy Graves is, check out Jack walking with a blond woman. That is Joy! Dear friend and hard worker for Jack on the road. Joy is the best Power of Attorney for Jack and is truly “saving” his life!

  6. Eve Lentz on

    JACK HERER, you may have your chance, soon, go to UCSF. I believe that you deserve their skilled and cutting edge brain injury center to best help you to continue communicating your thoughts, feelings and words! I know that you are still fighting hard for freedom. Your freedom! My loving prayers are with you and I am sending peaceful, healing rays of light to you, dear heart! I STILL BELIEVE IN MIRACLES!!

  7. HaileyJ on

    I noticed someone said “Joy’s side”. That bothers me. This is not a game of sides, this is a 70 year old man’s life. If there’s a line seperating sides, it should be viewed as “Jack’s side” and then the “anti-Jack side” because if there Are sides, then that’s the only way it can be. This is about Jack, there has to be a “Jack side”. That’s why I say, we will have to wait and see the Actionsthese “sides” are making, and figure out who is on “Jack’s side” and who is not. Anyone doing Anything to limit or hinder Jack from resuming a quality of his own life is who I would say are Not on “Jack’s side”.

  8. Concerned Eyes on

    Joy is listed as the primary power of attorney – she has legal right to know and be involved with Jack people whether any of us like it, agree wih it or not. So long as she looks out for Jack, everything will be fine.
    It shouldn’t matter who knows about an appointment Jack has, if it’s referred by a doctor and it’s to help him – and can get him home to better care, people shouldn’t be stopping him from going to the appointment.
    How does anyone Know whose going to be “taking care of Jack”, especially if these people live in other states? I’m sure they have families and lives of their own, people shouldn’t be Presuming, they should be focusing on what’s Best for Jack, like making it to his appointments. Doctor appointments can’t hurt him, right.
    Has anyone tried asking or even talking to “Joy”? I haven’t seen anyone indicate they’ve asked what she’s trying to do or why. She has a facebook, anyone could send a message, the worst she could do is not answer. I am going to try just to see if I get a response.
    People should stop worrying about what other people are doing though I think and focus there attention on Jack, he is what matters and is why all this is going on to begin with.
    If people want Jack to live they should be letting him go to doctor appointments and helping him get to good care and closer to home though, that’s for sure, not putting DNR’s and cancelling such important doctor appointments that could only help Him. It’s really getting confusing – whose helping and whose harming Jack Herer. We’ll see I guess, it’s just sad things have to go this way for that poor man. My thoughts and prayers are with him!

  9. CONCERNED FOR JACK on

    I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING. JOY LIVES IN OREGAN, AND EVE LIVES IN WASHINGTON.EVE IS STILL POA W/CHUCK. THATS HOW SHE KNOWS. JACK IS NOT MAKING ANY PROGRESS SINCE EVE & JOY WERE PUT OUT. READ THE ABOVE COMMENTS. I SAW THE VIDEOS AS WELL, AND I HEARD HIM SAY WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS SAYING. THE DOCTERS APPT. WAS SET UP, AT HIS LAST VISIT TO THIS DOCTER. YOU KNOW, NOTHING, AND YOU NEED TO READ THE FACTS. SALEM-NEWS SHOULD BE COMING OUT WITH SOMETHING TODAY OR TOMORROW, THEN YOU WILL SEE ALOT MORE THEN YOU THINK YOU KNOW. EVERYONE WANTS HIM BACK IN CALIFORNIA, AND NOT FOR EVE AND JOY TO TAKE CARE OF HIM, BUT TO BE AT THE BEST HOSPITAL HE CAN BE AT TO GET THE HELP HE NEEDS. IF HE STAYS IN OREGAN, HE WILL NOT GET BETTER. PLEASE READ THE LETTERS ABOVE STATING HOW WELL HE WAS DOING, BEFORE THE REHAB, PUT THEM OUT, CHUCK INCLUDED. JACK SIGNED THAT POA, TO MAKE SURE JEANNIE COULD NOT DO WHAT SHE IS DOING, AND CHUCK KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING, AND HAS DONE IS WRONG. JUST WAIT, FOR BONNIE KING TO GET THE FACTS OUT, AND THEN, IF YOU CAN OPEN YOUR MIND-YOU WILL SEE.

  10. Anonymous on

    “Jeannie esbalished this docter. Jacks, Docter, is the one who referred him to this appt. Jeannie picked out this docter. And Chuck consented to the referal of the Docter appt. tomorrow. NOW WHAT ???????”

    If the above is true, then what’s the problem? They obviously must have moved the appt up to tommorrow.

    However, I’m skeptical of the whole thing. If this was a doctor that Jeannie and Jack’s doctor arranged, why on earth would they have the doctor recommend that Jack be moved to California to be at the place where Joy/Eve etc, wants to take care of him?

    Also, if the doctor was not hired by Joy, then how on earth would ‘Joy’s side’ in this debate be able to know private medical things like:
    –When the appt was.
    –That the appt was cancelled.
    –That the doc was going to recommend sending Jack to Joy in California.
    I mean come on, really!

  11. CONCERNED FOR JACK on

    Jeannie esbalished this docter. Jacks, Docter, is the one who referred him to this appt. Jeannie picked out this docter. And Chuck consented to the referal of the Docter appt. tomorrow. NOW WHAT ???????

  12. Anonymous on

    Obviously this is a doctor that Joy made an appt with. How else would you know about the appt and know that the doctor would be willing to move Jack to California as Joy has been trying for.

    Do you really think that Chuck and Jeanne are going to let a doctor JOY lined up come in and see Jack?

    You’re making it sound like he cancelled an appt that Jack’s doctors set up for him.

  13. WATCHING YOU CHUCK on

    OMG, Chuck, what are you doing? Why aren’t you doing whats best for Jack? He needs to see that Docter, and You know that! Why would you cancell that appt? For what reason, because Jeannie said? Jack has had an appt. with a Brain Docter tomorrow, that is willing to refer him to The Best Hospital in California, ASAP, but needs to see Jack at the appt, tomorrow, First. If he doesn’t make that appt. then he will be stuck in Oregan forever. Please, everyone that might be reading this, Jack has a appt. tomorrow, and the docter has already said that he will refer him, but he must see him, in order to give him the referral. This is his only last chance at having any chance of Jack getting better. And Chuck cancelled the appt. Why ???????? Please anyone that knows Chuck please tell him to let Jack go to that appt. Its not costing any money. Please everyone, tell Chuck to knock it off and start doing whats right for Jack.

  14. TheTruthWillCome on

    Re: Who Wants The BEST care For Jack Herer?
    Please remove my comment.I meant to edit it before publishing and I clicked the wrong button.
    Thank you

  15. Rob B. - Oregon on

    I was in the room with Jack and I saw respond when that Joy chick walked in. I saw him staring at her and follow her with his eyes across the room. I saw him reach out his left hand to her.
    I heard her tell Jack that she was going to do her best to keep Jeannie away for him. I thought that was wrong, but then I saw him smile him pull Joy to him. Jack wrapped both arms around her and held her there in a hug. Then I knew that is what Jack wanted.
    It was hard because I know Jeannie, but the truth is what it is. Jack never showed any upset, fact is – he kept smiling the whole time she was with him – at her.
    When she went to get a nurse to do mouh care, Jack reached out his and and called her name clear as a bell. She was very attentive to him and he seemed happy about it.
    I don’t know who exactly she is but from what I saw, it doesn’t matter – Jack wants her there and that was clear.
    I wish he and Jeannie could work things out, but I don’t think he wants to, especially if he is more focused on and with Joy than with her.
    As much as I hate to say it, I think Jeannie should step back and let her take care of him, at least until he is well enough to decide for himself without question. Maybe he will change his mind?

  16. Tom Young on

    It was sad to see Jack that way but he was Definately in there and able to respond as claimed. I don’t think Jack would want it publically viewed but maybe it’s for the best so people cannot continue to deny his effots. Best wishes Jack! Keep singing! Your pal – Tom

  17. Anonymously on

    I went to Eve Lentz facebook and I easily saw the video last week. Now it is set to private.

    I saw Jack moving his lips to the words of a song, and I saw him following instruction when asked. I also heard Jack’s voice speaking many words. I could not make out all of them but I did hear him say “Eve please help me” and “Eve I love you”

    I know this is had for many who have not seen/heard it for themselves, but I and my husband Both heard and saw it for ourselves. It is evident.

    I do not know who this Eve is, but clearly Jack wants her to be there and help him. Sorry Jeannie but sometimes the truth hurts.

  18. farm's unite on

    Where have YOU been – that Eve woman put the video of him singing Weeks ago publically- she also sent copies of it out to many people that know and are friends with Jack. Whoever you are you must not be known as Jack’s friend. Granted it was not the best of Jack’s video but we saw it. We also saw him push a button when he was asked to. It does not seem like alot but it is more than Jeannie says he can do. Or more than Jack wants her to see anyway.
    We have talked to many who have seen the video and we all know he is in there, or at least he was before Jeannie pushed her way back in there and if Jeannie cannot see or get Jack to do these things then it Does say something. It says he doesn’t want YOU around and it says Jack doesn’t trust YOU to know and see what he can really do.
    We have called this Avamere and were told that only “family” is allowed in and that it’s been this way for about 3 weeks. I would say that if Jack cannot do these things now it is because of the company he is now in and these people who can get him to respond should be back in there encouraging him to continue. The video was sad, but it clearly showed Us that Jack is in there and wants to recover. I just hope the truth becomes known to the right people so Jack can come home. Whoever Green Hands is, it sounds like you are on the wrong side and misinformed. I hope You are not involved. Several of us asked this Eve to not keep the video public because it is sad, but maybe it should be so everyone else can see what we saw too. Jack is in there and he was getting better. Now it sounds to us like since Jeannie is back, Jack to is going back and that is sad. We are ALL holding Jeannie accountable and we hope for her sake he gets better and is not stopped from coming home or from having people around him who can actually help him of Jack’s choice.It IS suppoosed to be about Jack afterall! All eyes are on you girl. You better do right by our Jack. Stop trying to get control over someone who doesn’t want to be with you and let the man recover already! By keeping these people from him, it looks like you don’t want Jack to get better, why? WE KNOW don’t we Jeannie, we know and we are watching your every move.

  19. Anonymous on

    It’s a pretty wild sounding claim that Jack was singing songs, but I am completely willing to accept it as fact if I could see that video.

  20. Anonymous on

    More and more I’m on Jeannie’s side in this. There have been too many unsubstantiated claims by Joy. Also, the courts keep ruling against her, so she can’t have much in the way of evidence.

    Some random thoughts and wonderings that I hope doesn’t sound too much like a conspiratorial rant:

    Since Jack is the type to have his lawyer carefully go over any document he signs, it makes me wonder about his state of mind when he signed Joy’s POA, if he signed that is, since at this point I even wonder if it might be forged.

    Since the timing was right before his heart attack, I’m wondering about stuff like whether he had already started having some symptoms building up to it, like circulatory problems to the rest of his body including the brain. If he was in a bit of daze, he might have been easily made to sign.

    Joy hints at some unnamed bad type of drug being found in Jack’s system. IF true, what if this was from something taken by (or slipped to) him before the heart attack? Since Jack knew for sure that the Simpson oil + Amanita m combo caused him no problems, what if that third unnamed drug combined with the other 2 had a bad effect, messing him up enough that he easily signed the paper and maybe even helped trigger the heart attack?

    Told you I was going to sound like a conspiracy nut! :)

    What can I say? All of the above are just the crazy wonderings of my mind. I’m not actually accusing anyone of anything, and I’m certainly not claiming any of that stuff as being factual. I look forward to Jack’s recovery, and hope we all learn the truth from him, and find out which side was lying to take advantage of him.

  21. greenhands on

    You all spin a good story around, but the truth is obvious for those that have seen Jack. His health has gotten worse as this has all spun out of control..the people who are there to watch over him do not have a clue how to do that and that is why he is getting worse…you have to watch everything any nursing home does and i am sorry but these folks do not have a clue as to how to do that and as his tongue turns to leather they sit back and write garbage and spin tales of deceit. They are not skilled patient advocates. You are all being fooled. Last time it took almost a year for Jack to speak. We are still waiting for that singing video that does not exist, that was alleged weeks ago..it is all a lie and you have sucked it right up. Jeannie spent years helping Jack heal last time..
    She knows the routine, she has sucessfully brought Jack back last time from this state. She is his wife by law for now and she has the right to proceed as such. The constant contradictions and spewing by Joy and Eve are sickening and disturbing. Jack has not gotten better since they have created this disaster..he has gotten worse and that speaks for itself. The contradictions in your constant spewing are so obvious that we can smell the smoke of your pants on fire. Run while you can.

  22. farm's unite on

    Conservatorship is a PERMANENT and Forever order. And Guardianship the same Forever.
    I have known Jack for a long time and I know Jack had problems with his son Mark over money most of the time I’ve known Jack. I personally don’t think Jack would want Mark in control of his estate.
    I have communicated this to Joy and though she agreed with what I had to say, she stated to me she doesn’t Care about Jack’s money or having Mark running it because she doesn’t want to deal with it, she wants to focus on Jack and his care. I think that is a Mistake on her part.
    Joy said that Mark’s case before the court has the same case number as Jeannie’s. Joy said Jeannie asked the same court for Guardianship over Jack first. She said California would not “consider” such a position there so I called and the superior court told me the same thing, that they would not.
    I think Jeannie doing so is premature and it makes me wonder why she would be pushing to do so this quickly. Jack should be given every opportunity to recover Before a position like that is asked for legally muchless considered.
    As long as Jeannie and Mark’s cases are viewed as one case by case number, Joy in order to fight Jeannie would Have to fight Mark indirectly. Mark should redirect his claim to California and get it out of Oregon court so Jack can go back to California and get the care and help he needs – if he really wanted to do right by his father.
    I also Know that Jeannie had left Jack and was wanting alot of money from him each month or else she was threatening to turn him in and get him in trouble. She was threatening to divorce him and he said to me he hoped she did so he could be out of this mess with her and would only owe spousal support at best which he said would be far less than she was demanding of him every month.
    I know too that Jack said he was afraid of Jeannie interfearing with his life. I believe that is why he was talking to many people about getting papers even before he went up to the northwest. He said he was going to name Chuck but many of us expressed concern – Chuck is not the most responsible or reliable person. Jack agreed to our concerns and said he would pick someone to make sure Chuck did the right thing.
    Jack was asked why he wasn’t going to pick a relative but he said the people in the movement were more of family than his own family to him and he felt he could trust one of them more than any of his own family to carry out His wishes and also that it would prevent fighting.
    Jack has 6 children he told me. I do not know if all of them are in fact his, but he felt they are, so they are until proven different. He talked higher to me about the others, not Mark. It seemed to me that Mark was his most problematic of his kids, especially to do with money.
    I wonder why none of his other kids haven’t wished to step up and handle the finances. I don’t see why they couldn’t do that without having to get conservitorship – especially if Joy isn’t concerned with it.
    I think Joy should fight Mark’s claim too but she insisted to me that she is more concerned for Jack himself, and that she feels Jeannie is the main threat to Jack’s safety right now. Joy talked highly of Mark to me and said that with accountability she didn’t think Mark handling Jack’s estate would cause problem. I understand what she is saying, but too, as power of attorney she should be worrying about his estate as well as about him, he would want her to because he named her to. He could have named Mark if he wanted Mark to run his affairs but he didn’t. There is a reason I’m sure we probably don’t know about, he only talked to our family about Mark being a problem to him overall.
    Jack obviously felt the need to draw up papers naming non family members to look out for him. I think that trying to revoke the power of attorney is going directly against his intention. If Jack matters so much, why then the need to go to court and fight what he wanted. That is what people are doing when they contest what he’s done. It seems like They want to have complete control over Jack and his life and then telling all of us that it’s Joy wanting control. Obviously that’s wrong or she would not be telling people to let Mark handle Jack’s money matters. If she gave Mark that place without having to get conservatorship as she says, why then does he seek it and want to remove Joy from the spot his dad want’s her in? I think it’s jealousy and there’s no need of it especially if it’ stopping Joy from taking care of him like he wanted and asked of her to do.
    Instead of fighting against Joy, why have his family not tried to work with her at all. I am not meaning Jeannie, I mean his children. They haven’t even given her a chance from what I have observed and that is a shame, especially for Jack.
    Jack obviously picked Joy for a reason. He told us it was to make sure Chuck did right by him. He did not name Joy specifically but he said he was going to pick another person to name as well as Chuck. If what has been said is true, then she was right protecting Jack from him. They should have been working together for Jack not Chuck and Jeannie – Chuck and Joy.
    Obviously there is a conspiracy because many of us know Jack didn’t want to be with Jeannie and that she and Chuck did not get along. When Jack would talk about Jeannie he was bunt about not wanting to be with her ever again – Chuck was right there when he told us that back in mid July nodding his head with agreement and a smile. Why suddenly now that Jack’s sick are he and Jeannie working together against Joy? Everything Chuck ever said to me was about how rotten she was especially to he and Jack. Joy must be doing something right by Jack or those two wouldn’t be working to stop her and smear her name.
    If Chuck had any loyalty to Jack he would be trying to work with Joy and not viewing her as the enemy. She is only an enemy to people opposing Jack’s intentions from what I see.
    God speed to you Joy, God Speed! Please do all you can to bring Jack home and to keep him safe. Once he’s here, We will All look after him and make sure he is well and safe from harm. He has a big family down here in us and we Love Jack Herer dearly. We believe he wants to live. Anyone wanting anything beside that should be the ones stopped, not the ones trying to bring him back. Long live Jack Herer. We wish you well our brother. Come home soon and hang in there. We’re here for you brother and we are all waiting for you to come Home! Let the man come home and deal with the rest here. Oregon is only causing Jack harm.

  23. Bill McPike on

    I like much of what you said. I like the objective approach.

    One question I do have is, why anybody would want to stand in the way of Jack’s son, Mark Herer, from being court appointed to look out for his Dad? I can see both Joy and
    Chuck merely agreeing to Mark’s court appointment. Nobody has anything to lose by having the court review everything,
    and for Mark to provide accountings to the court. I’ve never
    met Mark, but I do realize it’s a son’s duty to protect his father. This is better for all the present parties, as he will come in as a fresh and objective figure.

    IF and when Mark is appointed, I see most of this dialog
    becoming irrelevent. Let Joy & Chuck show their consent to
    this result. IF not, I will have many, many, more doubts.

    Bill McPike, Attorney at Law

  24. Bill McPike on

    I have known Jack and Jeannie for some years now, since they
    lived in North Fork, CA. We became close friends, visiting
    each other’s homes, having B-B-Qs, speaking together, driving up to Eddy Lepp’s, etc. We even played a few hands
    of BlackJack at 2 different Indian casinos. Jack spent the
    night at my house on a few occasions. I read the early
    writings on the Mushroom manuscript in my livingroom. I’ve supported Jack as his friend and attorney as much as possible. I was happy when he called me a few years ago and
    told me, “I put you on my website, as the only attorney I respect.”
    At any rate, while Jack’s health is of paramount concern to anybody who knows and respects Jack and his works, I see a comparison to what happened to Howard Hughes. Jack is a public figure. He has enriched over
    1 million people, (his book sales) and now mysteriously
    he allegedly signed over all control of his person and
    his business, ironically, on the day he became comatose.
    I know Thor and Chuck and their tireless efforts with Jack, his travel, schedules, and everything else they
    did for Jack.
    I was shocked at the purported documents allegedly executed by Jack. Jack and I had a meeting in Holywood where Jack said he was being approached for business deals and he wanted me to review everything. He didn’t want to
    sign anything, until I reviewed the documents.
    So for me to believe he simply signed some documents
    a few hours before he became incapicitated, is a stretch.
    At any rate, according to the above article, Jack’s
    supporters are apparently divided.
    Myself, I don’t necessarily view this as a house divided. We all want Jack back so he can explain what he wants, and continue on with his work. However, I have seen
    inuendo, hearsay, rumor, just like with Howard Hughes, and none of this is helping Jack. How does a living person get
    an obituary published? This is sick.
    From first hand, I know some views are simply bunk.
    In my opinion, action taken by certain people has been too hasty and shows certain selfish motives.
    However, from any view, Jack is and will be best served
    by his immediate family. His son, Mark Herer, has a court
    hearing on 12/15/09, to be appointed conservator and to
    cancel the purported powers of non-family members, and to
    cancel the Mushroom book deal. Jack’s wife Jeannie, had to
    go to court in both Oregon and CA, to take off restraining
    orders placed by Joy Graves. In both cases Ms. Graves lost.
    Ms. Graves also has attacked Chuck. My 30 years as an
    attorney has enabled me to understand people and to see
    evidence of motives. I would advise you readers to not
    believe every word you read and to move out on faith.
    I have merely tried to maintain the status quo to see if Jack gets well enough to give me a different direction.
    In summary, as Jack’s friend and attorney, I hope that either Mark Herer or Jeannie gain control over an out of control situation, and I wish the family and Jack my prayers for full recovery and success in court.

    Bill McPike, Attorney at Law

  25. Joy on

    Don’t let James Aurthor’s mistakes reflect on Jack – that is what Jeannie wants to justify her Not wanting the book finished and published. Yes the book goes “left field” but still, he has the rght to make it and have it published no matter wat anyone says or thinks about it- that’s the bauty of bing an American Adult! I personally dont understand it all, but it’s irrelivant – it’s Jack’s and he want’s it out. I say let’s wait until HE gets better and if he puts it out, great – if he can’t, it should go out if only out of respect for him, and if he decides to Not put it out, fine too – it’s HIS choice to make not any of ours.
    I am NOT against cannabis NOR am I gainst RICK SIMSON’S OIL. Jack believes in it, it Has helped him, and if it can, then it shoud be an option fr him, period. I am against “cheap copy attempts” of Rick Simpson’s oil such as what’s been being given him by these people. I a Really wishing people wold email ME and ask me without having to address it publically, because I think the Facts Do Need to be known by Everyone, Especially those wh genuinely Care about Jack.
    The oil they used was NOT from Rick Simpson. Chuck was Given oil From Rick, but it’s Not what was used. “Ronnie Smith” aka “Roland A. Duby” aka “Troy” and whatever all other names this guy uses has Admitted HE Made the oil used on Jack recently – Publically he’s admitted it. He also describes HOW he makes it. Jack reacts to alcohol therefore Alcohol based oil should NOT be used. The proof of that is in the records – “stage 5 renal failure” when it was given. Now that it’s Out of his system – “real failure Resolved”. Furthermore, it had, and Jack tested Postive for “E-COLI” – yes – e-coli. VERY Dangerous for anyone Especially elders. On top of “renal failure” even moreso.
    Again, this IS an issue that upets me, but here’s something he’d tested Positve for Other than related to this “oil”. Salem-News knows this and hopefully will announce it soon so you all will know – THEN I’m certain that everyon will understand WHY I’m so upset.
    Jack is ready to go Hoe to California. He does Not want to be in Oregon or in Avamere. Jeannie filed for “guardianship” which she can only get here in Oregon California “Will Not Consider such a permanent position of control over an adult” so she has to do it here if she has a shot at getting that position ove Jack’s life. Mark can file for his money in California – I won’t contest Mark going for control of the money, or any of his other children. It’s Jeannie’s “case” that has to be done here and she knows it – that’s why she’s doing it here, claiming he lives here to the court when we all know he Don’t, and That’s hy Jack is being detained here in Oregon opposed to being allowed to go home. The REAL Question should be “WHY”, why s she insisting on such a position OVER Jack, and Why Knowing it’s stopping him from going home to California and to quality help, care, and options?
    If people want to help Jack, let me know. I people want to help Jeannie fight Against Jack – keep sending your money, it’s working. If people who Can help Jack but Choose to sit on the side-lines instead of speakingor standing up for the TRUTH – how good of friends are you to him? Go to my facebook – send me a message, offer help or support or Something, but don’t blame me for WH is willing to stand up and TRY. Good bad or indifferent, Im not seeking people out to help anymore – I sholdn’t have to. People who WANT to help Jack should stray along sooner or later, I’m waiting for You Guys to Offer help. Help that harms Jack, I’m not interested in, go to the “other side”.
    Seeva Cherm came to court n her own accord, i her own vehicle – I drove from Oregon. She is the ONLY one who showed up with the intent on trying to help Jack. I am greatful for that. Who she is or may be I dunno,but she stepped up in harms way trying to be on Jack’s side, and I respect that action. Where was everyone else? Where are they now? Where are YOU now? Where is she now? I don’t know – I am up here on my own trying to get him home, with NO HELP HERE. I thank her for her efforts, for her willingness to TRY. I will be thankful to EVERYONE who Tries to help Jack, I am not interested in personal squabbles or opinions. I was in the courtroom by Myself, standing against the morons who think there standing for Jack but are obviously Confused, (some in more way than one.) I know Jack has Dear Friends, I’m just nt seeing them do anything substanciating to try to be of help to him or in getting him out of Avamere, out of Oregon, and home to the help waiting for him. Whose willing to help Jack, to step up and speak on a record whre it’s going to count for him? Email me, I’m eager to see because the more the better. This is going to go to court because Jeannie wants Absolute Permanent Control over the man she left and was extorting money out of as many of us Know. The family thinks she is the only one willing to take care of Jack physically, I do not believe that. Whose willing?? I need to know soon because when it’s time for him to go to His Home, he will be needing some help. Email Jack’s email – [email protected] and step up to the plate – PLEASE!! Jack should not be put in a position of choosing “help in exchange for control” – he should ge help and maintain his own control. He’s NOT DEAD, nor is he BRAIN DEAD – he can heal and recover and live peaceably for at least anothe 20 years… if thy’ll give him a chance.
    Chuck put a DNR on Jack IDENTICAL to Jeannie’s before he about killed Jack which is when we ALL lost the right to having any say. That’s why everything is wrong right now, because of what Chuck did, and it’s noteen about the oil as much as the schedule 2 he gave him. Both endangered Jack – te alcohol IN that oil and moreso in my opinion, the other. Putting a DNR afterknowing what he did… really looks BAD. Because we were “co-powers” and despite Protective Services praising MY efforts with Jack – Chuck’s doing and Jeannie’s filing is why Jack is being held here in Oregon – Mark
    is too but Mark could re-file down there and that wouldn’t be a rod block for getting him down there. I’d encourage him to do that. If Jeannie is so confident Jack was going to get back “together” with her, I don’t see the need for her filing this… it makes me Question more than anything, don’t it all of you?

  26. rishard on

    Hello. I’m Rishard. I met Jack Herer through my friends and worked my first hemp fest with Jack and Jeannie in 1996 at Bill Conde’s. Jack was selling books out of the “Sow Much Hemp” booth owned by Bruce and Soma. The next year, they invited me to go on the road with them to help fight the recriminalization law in Oregon. In 1998, we helped promote the Oregon medical marijuana law. Since then, I’ve worked over 20 hemp events and several dozen smaller events, book signings, etc. with Jack. We have been good friends for many years.

    I worked with Jack during the last eight Seattle Hemp Fests and the last seven Olympia events. During the last event in Olympia 2009, I asked Jack where Jeannie was. I’ve known her since 1997 and have always liked her. Jack’s always at his very best around Jeannie. Jack said that while he was on the road, she had gone back to her old stomping grounds in Nevada to visit friends and family. She was also maintaining several websites. I asked him if everything was alright between them and he said everything was just fine. He said she was also looking for a new place for them to move into.

    Jack called Jeannie from my rental car at the 2009 Olympia hemp fest. I talked with her several minutes and everything was all good. They were both in great moods and Jack ended the call with his customary “I love you” and kisses over the phone.

  27. Joy on

    John, you & I have known one another for many years,and we’ve seen things over those years in our own ways on many things, but, we’d been able to work toward the greater cause regardless – allowing access to cannabis legally. Quite frankly I am Shocked that You of all people would indicate to the public that I have Issue with medicinally used Cannabis – after all the years and things I’ve personally done to help Voter Power. I want to address some statements you’ve made Only because of the years – I have been Trying to keep things out of public, but if this is the only way or communication…ok. My statements will be marked with (**) until the end of addressing what you’vee said John, then I’ll make a few points of my own.
    Anyone who knows Jack **DOES KNOW** that he is a true believer in the power of **RICK SIMPSON’S Hemp Oil**. He would absolutely want cannabinoids to be a part of his treatment **AND HE WOULD GET IT STRAIGHT FORM RICK – MADE BY RICK’S OWN HAND. RICK HAD MADE AND SENT SOME FOR JACK BEEFORE THIS LAST EPISODE HAPPENED – BUT WHERE IS IT BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE TEST RESULTS – IT WAS NOT RICK’S THAT WAS USED, AND ACCORDING TO THE “MAKER”, HE ADMITS HE ISN’T RICK SIMPSON. JACK KNOWS RICK’S IS SAFE, AND SAFE FOR HIM, AND JACK KNOWS HIS OWN PERSONAL DOSEAGE – AGAIN, THERE’S ANOTHER ISSUE OF CONCERN. YOU YOURSELF KNOW I HAVE BEEN AN OMMP PATIENT, CAREGIVER,& GROWER SINCE THE PROGRAM BEGAN ISSUING CARDS – AND YOU KNOW THE ONE WHO PUSHED ME TO APPLY WAS JACK! SO WHY WOULD YOU INSENUATE I WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH HEMP OIL, YOU OF ALL PEOPLE?? I WOULD GO FARTHER HERE, BUT WE’LL MOVE ON AND TOUCH ON IT DOWN FURTHER.**

    Jeannie assisted by my friend and colleague, Beau, was at Jack’s bedside from the first moment that was possible after his heart attack. They sat with him nearly 24/7 and tried to navigate the extremely difficult challenge of him being able to medicate with cannabis while he was being cared for by institutions that were at best skeptical.

    ** THIS IS TRUE & YOU ARE RIGHT AND IT IS UN-DISPUTED THAT “RICK SIMPSON’S HEMP OIL” DID MAKE A DIFFERENCE & AND IMPROVEMENT WHEN IT WAS USED AND DOSED CLOSE TO RIGHT FOR JACK. HOWEVER WHEN IT RAN OUT, WE ALL KNOW THERE BECAME ROOM FOR QUESTIONS – AFTER RICK’S WAS GONE, THERE HAPPENED THINGS THAT POTENTIALLY ENDANGERED JACK AS WELL ACCORDING TO THE MEDICAL RECORDS PERTAINNG TO THAT TIME PERIOD.**

    Joy’s actions have resulted in Jack being at a facility where cannabis is denied. We had much better options that have been prevented because Jeannie has had to spend so much time and energy just fighting for her right to care for her critically ill husband.

    **NOW THIS “POINT” YOU TRY TO ADDRESS BECOMES ENTER-TWINED WITH ANOTHER POINT, THAT’S NOT ALL THAT FAIR HERE JOHN, THESE ARE SEPERATE ISSUES. JEANNIE PUT JACK AT AVAMERE AND WE ALL KNOW THAT. WE ALSO KNOW THAT I HAVE NOT MOVED JACK, HE IS RIGHT WHERE JEANNIE PUT HIM, OTHER THAN THE 3 HOUR TRIP TO THE HOSPITAL FOR BRONCHTIS. JEANNIE KNEW AVAMERE WAS OT 4:20 FRIENDLY, SHE PUT HIM THERE AND THEN TRIED IT ANYWAY, SHE GOT CAUGHT ACCORDING TO THE RECORDS MULTIPLE TIMES. AND THE “CANNABIS” SHE GOT CAUGHT ADMINITERNG, AGAIN WAS NOT RICK SIMPSON’S OIL. ALSO THE DOSEAGES AGAIN WERE AFFECTING HIS STABILITY. AND ONE OF THE “TINCTURES” SHE WAS CAUGHT WITH FLAT SHOULDN’T HAVE BEEN USED FOR JACK REGARDLESS BECAUSE HE IS DIABETIC. JEANNIE’S METHOD RESULTED IN JACK NOT BEING ALLOWED “ANYTHING CANNABIS OR HEMP” – EVEN LOTIONS AND CHAP STICK, NOTHING. JEANNIE DID THIS BEFORE I GOT INVOLVED WITH AVAMERE -HOW IS IT MY FAULT – I’M TRYING TO GET HIM OUT OF THERE, JEANNIE IS THE REASON HE IS STUCK THERE, NOT ME.
    THE SECOND OF YOUR POINTS, REGARING JEANNIE. I’D RATHER THIS BE ADDRESSED IN IT’S APPROPERIATE TIME & PLACE, BUT BECAUSE IT’S YOU, I’LL SAY A LITTLE ABOUT IT; JEANNIE IS NOT BEING HONEST REGARDING HER POSITIONING WITHIN JACK’S LIFE PRIOR TO HIM FALLING ILL THIS TIME. THE FACTS THAT SHE IS AVOIDING DO HAVE PARTIAL MERIT FOR WHY THERE IS RESON TO QUESTION HER BEING WITH HIM. THE SECOND PART FOR QUESTION IS HER BEHAVIOR AND CONDUCT. SHE SHOULD NOT BE CREATING UPSET FOR OR AROUND JACK, DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY. ATTITDES AND YELLING, THREATENING ANYTHING IS NOT RIGHT TOWARD HIM AT ALL, AND JEAPORDIZING HIS ABILITY TO GET THE PROFESSIONAL ASPECTS OF THE TREATMENT AND REHAB HE NEED’S IS SOMETHING I AM AGAIST TOO. IF JEANNIE WANTED 4:20 FRIENDLY SHE SHOULD HAVE PUT HIM THERE NOT AVAMERE. IF SHE WNTED A DEGREE OF TOLERANCE WIT PUSHING FOR IT (LIKE EMMANUEL)SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE HONEST (LIKE EMMANUEL). I HAD FOUND 5 OTHER 4:20 FRIENDLY LOCALLY AS WELL AS 6 NEAR LAKE (JACK’S HOME) BUT BECAUSE OF THE “INTERNET DRAMA” THERE EXACT WORDS WERE “NO WAY, WE’VE SEEN THE INTERNET” EVEN A “MARINOL FRIENDLY” PLACE (NOT THAT JACK WOULD LIKE MARINOL, BUT I THOUGHT MAYBE RICK SIMPSON OIL COULD BE SLIPPED ON TE TABLE LATER) SAID THE SAME THING – AND IT’S NOT BEEN ME RUNNING TO THE INTERNET CAUSING HAVOC. IF JEANNIE IS WANTING TO BE CONSIDERED TO HELP CARE FOR JACK SHE HAS GOT TO DO IT IN THE BEST WAY FOR HIM. SHE COULD HAVE GOTTEN HIM THROWN OUT ONTO THE STREET WITH NO-ONE ELSE WILLING TO OPEN THEIR DOORS, THEN WHAT? THE STATE WOULD HAVE TAKEN AND KEPT HIM TEN BECAUSE THEY ARE REQUIRING A “SKILLED FACILITY” FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER 2 MONTHES – AT THAT TIME HE WAS LUCKY TO BE THERE. NOW, IT’S JEANNIE KEEPING HIM IN AVAMERE – WE’RE READY TO GET TO CALIFORNIA IF IT WASN’T FOR HER AND MARK’S CASE FOR CONTROL, EVERYTHING’S SET FOR JACK, WHAT DO YOU THINK I’VE BEEN DOING?! YOU GUYS DON’T WANT TO “TALK” TO ME AT ALL, THAT’S JACK’S PROBLEM. YOU GUYS ARE KEEPNG HIM IN OREGON, IN AVAMERE – NOT ME.**

    If Joy were concerned about Jack, why on earth would she deny his lifelong friends like Elvy Musikka and myself the ability to visit him. I have known and worked with Jack from almost before Joy was even born.

    ** I DID NOT DENY ELVIE, NOT AT ALL – I HAD ABSOLUTELY NO SAY IN THEM PUTTING HER & HER FRIEND OUT, I WAS THERE IN A MEETING WITH THE STAFF WHEN THEY WERE SEEING JACK, THEY ASKED ME AND I TOLD THEM I KNEW ELVIE IS JACK’S FRIEND. THEY OBSERVED THE LADIES GIVING HIM WATER AND ASKED TEM TO STOP HILE I WAS OUTSIDE AT MY CAR. THEY TOLD ME THE LADIES REFUSED TO STOP AND CONTINUED, SO THEY MADE THE CALL AND THEY PUT THEM OUT. I WAS COMING IN WHEN THEY WERE BEING ESCORTED TO THE DOOR. THEY TOLD ME THAT’S WHY THEY PUT THEM OUT. ELVIE WASN’T “ON A LIST” BECAUSE IT WASN’T THOUGHT TO PUT HER ON LIST. WHEN I TRIED TO PUT HER ON “THE LIST” AFTER THIS EPISODE WITH THE WATER, THEY WOULDN’T ALLOW IT – THAT IS WHY SHE WAS NOT ON A “LIST”. EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR JACK’S BEST INTEREST” BY EVERYONE, IT SHOULDN’T NEED TO BE STATED IT SHOULD BE INSTINCT. I WANT JACK BETTER,OFF THE FEED TUBE AND EATING/DRINKING – IT WASN’T MY CALL ABOUT WATER IN HIS MOUTH, THEY BASED IT ON MEDICAL CONDITION OF JACK. HIS THROAT WAS NOT FUNCTIONING RIGHT, IT HAPPENING CREATED BRONHITIS AND SENT HIM TO THE HOSPITAL. THEY DIDN’T REALIZE A LITTLE WATER WAS A DANGER FOR JACK – OR I BELIEVE THEY WOULDN’T HAVE DONE IT, ESPECIALLY RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE STAFF, BUT IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ME JOHN. I DID ASK YOU TO NOT COME SEE JACK BECAUSE OF S.F. AND YOUR POSITION WITH JEANNIE VIA BEAU, NOT PERSONAL. I WANT A LITTLE TIME TO TRY AND GET HIM BETTER – AND IT WAS WORKING – HE WAS FARTHER THEN THAN HE IS NOW, IT’S DOCUMENTED IN HIS CHART!! YOU PEOPLE ARE VIEWING ME AS A BAD GUY WHEN YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER – YOAND BEAU SHOULD REALLY KNOW BETTER.**

    This story leaves out much. Many of Jack’s friends have been trying to help. Voter Power provided Jeannie a place to stay while she cared for Jack. We also hosted a benefit fo his expenses on November 28.
    YES, YOU GAVE JEANNIE A PLACE TO STAY NEAR JACK, WHICH IS A NICE GESTURE ND THING TO DO NO DOUBT. VERY GENEROUS OF YOU JOHN. AND YES I HEARD ABOUT THE BENEFIT, AGAIN, VERY NICE GESTURE FROM THE HEART… BUT, FOR WHO… JEANNIE OR JACK? I KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT YOU AND BEAU HAVE KNOWN JACK FOR A GREAT MANY YEARS, LONGER THAN EVEN I OR JEANNIE. JEANNIES PETITION FOR THE COURT IS WHY JACK IS BEING DETAINED HERE RATHER THAN BEING ABLE TO BE MOVED BACK TO CALIFORNIA RIGHT NOW… RIGHT NOW JOHN, BACK TO CALIFORNIA IGHT THIS MINUTE! INTO ONE OF HE TOP NEUROLOGICAL REHABILATION FACILITIES IN OUR COUTRIES NATION! IF ALL THE DRAMA WOULD STOP, ESPECIALLY OVER THE DAMN INTERNET, AND HER PEITION FOR “ABSOUTE CONTROL” OVER JACK’S FUTURE LIFE WOULD BE DROPPED, HE’D BE OUT OF HERE – BACK TO CALIFORNIA, BACK TO THE BEST SKILLED FACLITY HE COULD HOPE FOR, AND THEN WE COULD “DISCRETLY YET HONORABLY” MOVE TOWARD JACK’S ACCESSABILITY TO “RICK SIMPSON’ OIL”…. THE GOAL IS TO GET HIM WELL!!! RIGHT? **

    I believe Joy’s actions are criminal. To deny a wife the ability to care for her husband under these circumstances is not the action of a compassionate caring person. Everything about this so called power of attorney is very fishy. You should investigate that if you want to claim to be doing real journalism. There are jurisdiction issues that challenge the validity of this power of attorney. The witness is Joy’s friend. I was with Jack that day at Hempstalk before we both spoke. He did not say a word to me about this document or giving control of his life to an aquaintance like Joy.
    **JEANNIE HAD LEFT JACK JOHN. I BELIEVE SHE MAY REGRET HAVING DONE IT BUT SHE DID – IT IS FACT AND IS EASILY PROVABLE BOTH BY TESTIMONY AS WELL AS FROM DOCUMENTATION FROM JACK’S OWN HAND AND MOUTH. THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT HAS BEEN EXTENDED JOHN, BUT NOT TO THE POINT OF ENDANGERMENT FOR JACK – IT CANNOT BE. IF SHE REALLY WANTED JACK TO GET BETTER SHE WOULD NOT CONTINUOUSLY BE TRYING TO “LIMIT” NOR “HINDER” HIS ABBILITY TO PROGRESS. IF HE RESPONDS TO SOMEONE MORE THAN ANOTHER…. WHY FIGHT AGAINST IT- YOUR FIGHTING AGAINST JACK BECAUSE IT’S JACK’S DECISION WHO HE’S CHOOSING TO REPOND MORE TOO THAN THE OTHER. IF SHE CAN ADMIT JACK HAS PROGRESSED SINCE EMMANUEL, WHY A DNR AFTER EMMANUEL, WHY NOT AT EMMANUEL? IT WOULD HAVE MADE MORE SENCE THEN BUT NOT NOW. I AM COMPASSIONATE, AND UNDERSTAND JEANNIE’S UPSET, BUT I QUESTION THE REASONING BEHIND HER UPSET, IF IT’S OUT OF HIS INEREST OR HERS. EVERY TIME YOU PEOPLE START ROUNDS REGARDING JACK, AND YOU ARE DISPROVED, YOU GO BACK TO THE DOCUMENTS… IT’S KIND OF SAD. JACK WAS TALKING ABOUT THESE DOCUMENTS MONTHES BEFORE HE STARTING ADDRESSING THEM WITH ME, HAVEN’T YOU HEARD. MAYBE YOU SHOULD RE-READ STATEMENTS FROM OTHERS WHO HAVE ALREADY CONFIRMED THIS SO YOU CAN RE-FIGURE A POINT TO TRY TO MAKE. PERHAPS JACK KNEW “VOTER POWER’S” BEHIND THE SCENE’S LOYALTIES HAVE ALWAYS SWAYED JEANNIE’S WAY SINCE HIS STROKE – HE & JEANNIE WERE STAYING WITH BEAU BACK THEN FOR MANY MONTHES, AND JEANNIE MORE THAN HE. MOST OF US WHO KNOW THE BEHIND THE SCENE’S KNOW THAT THERE’S A TAD MORE LOVE FLOWING JEANNIE’S WAY, ESPECIALLY FROM BEAU – HE HOLD’S JEANNIE IN HIGHER REGARD YOU CAN HEAR IT IN HIS WORDS ABOUT THE TWO, WHICH IS FINE – NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT… BUT IF WE CAN SEE IT, DON’T YOU THINK JACK COULD TOO. MY GUESS WOULD BE THAT MAYBE THAT’S WHY HE SPOKE ABOUT HIS PLANS TO OTHERS (BESIDES EVEN ME) OPPOSED TO PEOPLE SUCH AS YOU OR BEAU – YOU MAYBE BECAUSE YOUR SO CLOSE WITH BEAU, LOOK AT HOW IT WENT DOWN IN S.F. I FIGURED WITHIN 5 MINUTES I’D HEAR FROM BEAU WHEN YOU SAW ME, BUT HE CALLED WITHIN 2. JACK’S ALWAYS BEEN A VERY INTELLIGENT MAN, EVEN AFTER HIS STROKE… THAT’S THE PROBLEM NOW, YOU GUYS ARE UNDERESTIMATING JACK – FIGHTING “ME” IS NOT FIGHTING ME YOU GUYS – YOUR FIGHTING JACK. AND YOU ADMITTED IT IN YOUR POST, WHICH I APPRECIATE – AND ALL THE MONEY YOUR COLLECTING, IS BEING USED TO FIGHT JACK WHEN YOU USE IT TRYING TO “FIGHT ME”, DON’T YOU REALIZE THAT JOHN? HOLD ONTO THE MONEY, IF IT’S FOR JACK, WE CAN USE IT TO GET HIM HOME… WHEN THE CASE IS DROPPED,HE CAN GO – EVERYTING’S ALREADY SET AND WAITING FOR HIM RIGHT NOW TO GO, IT’S YOU GUYS GETTING HIM HELD HERE… STUCK IN AVAMERE…HINDERED OF MANY THINGS BESIDES HIS RICK SIMPSON OIL!! **

    Some people are worried about getting their cut of the not finished book actually written by the pedophile. Jack’s real friends are trying to figure out how to honor his deepest desire – to always have that perhaps life saving input of cannabinoids.
    ** OTHER THAN JACK INSISTING ON HAVING THE MANSCRIPT PUBLISHED, I COULD ARE LESS ABOUT THE FREAKIN BOOK OR WHAT MAY ONE DAY COME FROM IT – THAT SHOULD GO TO JACK AND ONE DAY BE DIVIDED EQUALLY AMONGST HIS CHILDREN SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN TO HIM PERIOD UNLESS JACK HIMSELF DECIDES SOMETHING DIFFERENT. MY JOB AND GOAL IS TO PROLONG THAT DAY AS LONG AS POSSIBLE, NOT BY PERSONAL LIMITATION SOMEONE SETS ON HIM. I BELIEVE STRONGLY JACK CN RECOVER FAR BEYOND WHERE HE IS RIGHT NOW – IF GIVEN EVERY CONSIDERATION, AND IT’S NOT ME TRYING TO NOT CONSIDER JACK, IT’S THE REST OF YOU GETTING IN HIS WAY FROM GOING SOUTH AND GETTING HELP. I’VE GOT FULL INSURANCE WAITING TO COVER HIM DOWN THERE – THAT’S WHERE HE LIVES, THAT’S WHERE HE WANTS TO BE, THAT’S WHERE HE CAN AND SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO GET BETTER. IF THAT’S NOT SOMEONE’S DESIRE – FOR JACK TO GET BETTER, THEN I GUESS I AM STADING ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THEIR LINE. THAT’S UNFORTUNATE, BUT IT’S NOT GOING TO MAKE ME CHANGE SIDES, I STAND BESIDE JACK, AND I BELIEVE IN HIM.i SAY LET’S WAIT AND LET JACK HANDLE HIS OWN DAMN BOOK, AND LET’S DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET HIM WELL SO HE CAN!**

    The real tragedy is that in spite of all our accomplishments with medical marijuana, the Emperor of Hemp, my friend and mentor, Jack Herer is being denied his choice of medical cannabis as you read these words.

    ** YES THIS IS A TRAGEDY JOHN, IT REALLY IS, BUT AS LONG A JEANNIE WANTS TO FIGHT FOR PERMANENT ABSOLUTE FOREVER CONTROL OVER JACK AND PERSUES THE “GUARDIANSHIP CASE” SHE FILED AGAINST JACK (HE IS THE RESPONDENT) – THE STATE OF OREGON HAS THE LEGAL RIGHT TO “DETAIN” JACK IN OREGON. HE IS A CALIFORNIA RESIDENT, HAS FULL MEDICAL INSURANCE WAITING FOR HIM IN CALIFORNIA, AND IS A CALIFORNIA MEDICAL CANNABIS PATIENT. HIS HOUSE IS THERE, HIS HEART IS THERE, AND A TOP NOTCH PLACE IS WAITING TO HELP HIM THERE. EVEN THE GOVERNATOR WANTS HIM THERE, WE ALL WANT HIM THERE, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT JEANNIE PERSISTS SHE MUST HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OVER JACK AND SO SHE IS KEEPING HIM HERE IN OREGON, LIMITING JACK IN A GREAT MANY WAYS. WHY?? EACH STATES LAW CLEARLY EXPLAIN WHY – ONLY IN OREGON WOULD THEY CONSIDER “TOTAL CONTROL FOREVER” OVER AN ADULT…. WHY A NEED OF TOTAL CONTROL – BECAUSE WHAT “IF” HE REALLY DOESN’T WANT TO BE WITH JEANNIE ANYMORE – WITHOUT A GUARDIANSHIP HE COULD ONE DAY LEAVE, WITH IT – HE COULD NOT, WHICH BRINGS US TO THE REAL POINT. JACK CAN TERMINATE A POA… BUT IT’S DAMN NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO TERMINATE A GUARDIANSHIP (OR CONSERVATORSHIP) IF HE COULD EVER AT ALL. I THINK THE “TRUTH” BECOMES REAL CLEAR – WHEN YOU BIASLY LOOK AT THE FACTS, AND ONCE YOU SEE IT AND KNOW IT, WHOSE DOING WHAT FOR JACK’S SAKE, AND WHOSE DOING THINGS FOR THEIR OWN SELF…. IT SHOWS. I AM NOT IN A PERMANENT POSITION NOR A POSITION OF “CONTROL”,NOR AM I PETITIONING FOR IT. I AM IN A POSITION OF “BEST INTEREST FOR JACK” BECAUSE JACK ASKED AND PUT ME THERE – WHY WOULD JACK WANT TO “COME BACK” IF HIS LIFE WASN’T GOING TO BE HIS OWN? WHAT’S THE RUSH WRITING HIM OFF AND INSISTING THERE’S A NECESSITY FOR CONTROL? IT TOOK A LONG TIME AFTER HIS STROKE, BUT HE WAS ABLE TO RESUME CONTROL. SOMETHING’S FISHY ALRIGHT, BUT ITS NOT ME JOHN, IT’S NOT ME. AND I’D BE FIGHTING JUST AS HARD FOR BEAU IF HE’D PUT ME IN THIS POSITION, WITHOUT A DOUBT IN MY MIND I WOULD – I LOVE THEM BOTH AND IT BREAKS MY HEART TO BE ON OPPOSITE SIDES WITH HIM ON THIS, BUT I HAVE TO, AND IT WOULD BE VISE-VERSA IF IT WERE REVERSED, AND I’D HATE TO STAND AGAINST JACK FOR BEAU, BUT I WOULD IF IT WAS FOR BEAU’S BEST INTEREST. MAYBE HE DOESN’T REALIZE THAT, MAYBE YOU DON’T EITHER, BUT YES, FOR THESE GUYS I WOULD DO THAT IF IT MEANT THE BEST FOR THEM, BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT THEM AND I WOULDN’T WANT TO LET THEM DOWN, EITHER ONE.**

    *** Now to regular text, John, I am really hoping thAt once people calm down and look at things for what they really are instead of what there wanting to see, and trying to fight against what there Not wanting to see, and the facts Are accepted as fact, then we should easily be able to move toward the right page which is Jack and whAt he needs and what’s best for him. People are under the impression I am against cannabis, which you know, as well as Beau, Chuck, I and many others KNOW that it’s not true, not at all. And people are actually thinking that I was so upset in my post yesterday because of something to do with cannabis – the alcohol. Yes I am upset about it, because it too hurt Jack, BUT what I’m upset over to the point I flipped in the post has Absolutely Nothing to do with that as much as it does the Other substance that was found testing Positive in his system. THAT SUBSTANCE could have KILLED him – Especially with a DNR because it Directly affects the Heart. Giving him that in it’s self to me is a Vey Serous crime – doing it an then placing a DNR on him to boot, and right then, to me looks like a Death Warrant, and That’s why I was so upset I flipped out in that post. Other than that post, this one, and a few quotes in news postings, I’ve been holding my tongue and hoping people would stop thinking about themselves and start thinking about JACK, and bustng my but trying to get him the help he needs to get better. I’e done that, now I’m waiting for everyone to get out of Jacks way so he can go get it. Everything’s ready right now, if it’s about Jack living his life, why is he being held here – the state tells me it’s because Jeannie’s filed for permanent control over Jack, and Mark his money. I don’t give SHIT about Jack’s money, now or ever, but Jack himself – yes, that’s why I’m in this… but ot for Me – for Jack… I believe Jack should have control over his own life, and if he’s let, I beloeve he can again, in time. POA is temporary until he can – guardianship is not, IT IS Permanent. Even if she were to get it, it wouldn’t affect me or my future, it would be affecting Jack and his future. When Jeannie admits to the truth out-right without all the run around b.s. stories, the question that becomes apparent, is – why the sudden Need to be court establshed for Total Control over the mans life, to the point that it’s actually hindering him from attainng much needed care and rehabilation…. because he could get better and say he Doesn’t want to “reconsile” – that’s what the real threat is isn’t it – he might actually be able to speak for himself, say what he want’s and expose what’s Really been going on. If it’s not the case, let him go home and get help without interfearance and let’s wait and see…. what is there to lose? Other than that chance being given to Jack. Now who knows, I could be wrong and Jack could never “come back” but how do we know if we don’t give him time and opportunity – people were saying he’d never even open his eyes, and in time, he did… and he didn’t have a DNR then, why the sudden need for one now, now that he IS better than he was then – tell me the logic to That, please?? I tell you he was talking to and in front of me. I tell you he used Both his arms on me, and in therapy. He was following my pepsi with his eyes, left to right, up o down, over and over again, and on more tan one account. And I tell you he was following instruction. This is More than just opening eyes and twitching fingers like then, so if there was no need for it then, WHY NOW, if it’s not to hinder him, why?? There is No Reason.
    If I’m trying to harm him, why is it only me fighting for his every right to try to live and get better, why am I arranging him a top notch place, why am I trying to get him home to California, and set up with full coverage insurance, and arranging nurses and durable medical equipment and everything else he my Possibly need from now through him going to his own private home??? He does NOT qualify for VA rehab! Why would I be running all over hell trying to organize and arrange, set up and get waivered fees and costs and other things in his way just to get him help? Why am I doing all this While fighting opposition, dealing with False alligations, half truths and Death Threats. Why are these things an issue if everyone is trying to “Care” for “Jack” – it should be about HIM if they are. You Know I myself am terminally physically ill and medically speaking “on borrowed time” – Beau knows this so I’m sure you do too. If people would join the “Jack – Team”, he’d already be in California, he’d already be half way rehabilatated and that much closer to going to His Home. When I said “Lake” his eyes lit up – his eyebrows lifted, and he grinned and said “home-home home!”, that is where He wants to be, that’s where I want him to be, and by God that’s where he Should be, headed toward home, headed toward Recovery. We can discuss this more Privately if you’d like, you Have my number, and I’d called and left messages on Both of your phones John. I am trying to show some respect for Jack’s Privacy – he doesn’t like his “dirty laundry” scattered about publically…. if ya talk publically Jack perfers it be about his book, not the things behind doors that should be closed. It should stop at the medical facility door, wherever the door is, not be going beyond it – out of respect for him and those who love him, and those who are involved in this mess – it IS a mess, and it shouldn’t be… Jack doesn’t need a mess, and he doesn’t need to be subjected to fighting, especially now for God’s sake. You’ve got the transport money, I’ve got the arrangements, it’s up to Jeannie’s court case (Mark can file his in California) – does she want what’s Best for him, or does she want Total Control over the man, that’s the question. I don’t think she NEEDS Total Control over Jack, especially when it’s Preventing him from getting his help and care, and it is right now, it IS, because Oregon is Not going to let him go until she’s done with this case. They were Broken Up John, period, and he was Not going After her. Pay her bills yes, but go to Santa Rosa, or Anywhere else – no way, he LOVES his house at Lake and Everyone who knows him know it. Hell, he wanted to BUY it while she was renting another in Lower Lake!
    JACK needs all the HELP HE can GET right now, sitting by and “watching” is about as bad as getting in his way – or giving and getting money to fight against what’s best for Jack right now – it’s NOT doing him any good, not at ALL. Then people want to critisize and “nit-pick” at the Only people who are willing to stand up to Try to help Jack – sad. But you of All people should Not be mis-leading from the Truth. It’s Jeannie condemning Jack to this mess, and she’s going to keep doing it until SHE get’s her way. IF Mak wee to file fo Jack’s money in California, it’s Jeannie’s case that would be keeping him stuck here. Jeannie file first, Mark joind in after – mark’s can be moved to California, Jeannie’s cannot because California already said they “DO NOT CONSIER” a permanent control position over an adult, which is EXACTLY what “Guardianship” is – peranent no matter what. I’m going to fight for it to be Jack’s way… I have no choice, it’s what he Asked me to do for him, with his own mouth… this is not about Jeannie, me, Chuck, the manuscript or anyone or anything else, unles They try to make it be – this is about Jack’s LIFE, a life I want him to Have and Fight to return too…. Stop discouraging him, everyone involved in these things please, stop and let me get Jack to quality care, he is not safe nor happy here, help me take him Home – IF you want to help Jack, if not, then I guess this goes on because I’m not going to give up on fighting for His best interests,his rights, his freedoms, and his life. I’m not – I Promaced him I wouldn’t and I’m not going to give up on him, not until I’m dead then he’s on his own, but not before. I don’t want conflict with Anyone, but for Jack, I’ll face it. My job is to get him to safety and that’s what I’m going to do, with, or without all your help.
    My facebook is accessable to Any who Wish to speak to me, I am not the one hiding or avoiding, I’m not the one getting him “detained” in this state either, Im the one trying to get him Out of this mess. I’ve Not asked for money nor will I because I know Jack’s against “begging” for help OR Money. He needs transport, if and when this “control” seeking STOPS. It’s all that’s standing in his way. But with or without help, I’ll do all I can to get Jack home to California and set up with the help he needs and deserves. And with or without an attorney, I’ll fight for his rights and his justice. But in the end, when he is WELL, he’s going to know what Everyone’s done, as well of those of you who Won’t do, won’t say, won’t help, and who supported who more than the him. I know I’m in good standing with him – do all of you? ARE all of you?? Are you SURE you’ve landed on the Right side of all this??? Really Really sure???? Time Will soon tell, because now you ALL know, he’s ready right NOW if the control fight in the Oregon Court will be dropped… I didn’t file it, but I WILL fight it for Jack’s sake – he Doesn’t NEED a Controller, he needs HELP! Well??? Whose it about??? JACK – or JEANNIE – because it IS an issue, and Now everyone knows it – right now you know for sure because I’m telling you! Let’s just SEE whose on JACK’s side, shall we. Email me. Joy

    John Sajo

  28. Sending Healing Prayers to Jack on

    Did you read what I wrote? Jack is in a Rehab, that Jeannie picked, that is Federally run, and therefore 420 UNFRIENDLY.
    Joy is not against the Hemp Oil, at all, only that he get it the right way; not in his feeding Tube, or in his bum. I know, how hard it is to even find a rehab, let alone one that is 420 friendly. Joy is not allowed to see Jack. Who knows if they have another DNR, on Jack. So, now what?????????

  29. Lygeia on

    Jeannie Herer seems willing to provide Jack Herer with cannabis as a medicine. However, with the fragile state of his health, had the Do-Not-Resuscitate Order(DNRO) that she signed been in effect, Mr. Herer might have died as he required certain care in the recent past that would have been unallowable under a DNRO.

    Joy Graves is unwilling to allow Jack Herer to use cannabis as a medicine. However, she is against the use of a DNRO. Given the state of Jack Herer’s health, it appears that he may be out of the woods with regard to an imminent life-threatening event. However, it appears unlikely he will recuperate as quickly, if at all, without medicinal cannabis.

    This reminds me of the movie, “Diabolique,” where the wife and the mistress conspire to end the husband’s life.

    While these two women may not intentionally intend to harm Jack Herer (as was the case in the movie) and, for all intents and purposes, appear to be at sixes and sevens with each other, the practical result of their actions may result in irrevesible harm to Mr. Herer’s person.

  30. TheTruthWillCome on

    Jeremiah,
    You did a great job of unraveling this mess and shedding light on it. Keep up the deep reporting.
    A lot of the people in this drama are mental cases imposing thier own sense of self importance into Jack’s legacy.

    I was with Jack in Los Angeles a week before the heart attack. He was very candid about the fact that his wife Jeannie left him and was demanding vast amounts of money for support.

    The hard truth is that Jeannie likely drove him to that heart attack making Jack work double time to pay her support. Jeannie is a liar.She had no intention of letting Jack take it easy, and Jack had no intention of leaving Clear Lake.
    Jeannie left him and her ravings and denial are not true.

    Joy Graves is the only one putting Jack’s care above other agenda’s. Everybody else is ready to put Jack to sleep to keep thier hands on his empire.

    You know..I love weed too, but given Jack’s current health status, is slipping him hash oil remedies that are unproven and untested wise? What if the weed had pesticides?

    The idea that Jack must have cannabis from the streets in his health care now is romantic, but not nessicarily practical. Chuck slipping him doses of his dope is criminal.

    The only thing Joy has done wrong was allowed those creepy poseurs Seeva and Steve Cherms to get involved. Jack would not want them anywhere around his business.
    Now Cherms presented themselves to Joy has being close to Jack, and she was duped. So now she has been informed that she needs to keep better company in order to help Jack.

    A lot of Jack’s closest friends know the score, and will be heard from soon if Jack doesn’t start getting the absolute best care possible.

  31. Sending Healing Prayers To JACK on

    I have something to say

    #1- Jeannie had Jack put in that Rehab,he is at now, knowing it was Federally Run, and not 420 Friendly.
    #2 – The POA, is complete
    #3- The Advanced Directive was not complete,in Portland- But was complete in by Eugene
    #4- Joy has The Medical Papers,
    Proving there was way more in his system than THC, when he ended up back in the hospital, while Chuck was there supposed to be (caring) for him for 6 days.
    #5- Jeannie knows she is not being honest, about her situation with Jack, and Alot, of Jacks friend know that,as well and I do not understand why folks aren’t telling the truth, about what they know, about their relationship.
    #6- Chuck knows what Jack wanted,and intended to do when he returned from Europe.
    #7-and last but not least, Joy is trying her best to follow through with what Jack told both her and Chuck what he wanted. Why do you people think he had made the POA? Think about it……. And have you seen the letter Jack wrote to His Landlord, dated 07-07-09 that Jeannie, no longer lived at his resident, and he and his caregiver, would be the only ones there ????? Joy has not gotten 10 cent for everything she has been trying to do, in regards, to Jacks wishes, nor has she set up any bank accounts, nor asked anyone for help, with money

    In conclusion. There are alot of conflicting stories, but the truth is, that Jack did indeed sign the Power of Attoney, making it complete, and he did that for a reason, in case something were to happen to him while he was abroad, until, he could get back to Lake County, to finish seperation papers, as well as his book. Long Live The Empeperor, and shame on all you mean people, that are not looking at the truth. Praying for Jack To Just Get Back To California, where he can get the help he needs, so bad.

    Joy, I am sending you the strength to keep going, and don’t stop, because Jack trusted YOU, to make sure, he was not in the position he is in now.(& Chuck has turned his back on you ,now) I know You have had a big fight on your hands, and you are a probably exhausted, but I believe that Jack is counting on you, and I know how much you & Tim care,about Jack. Be Strong,and don’t let these people, that know nothing about Jack and the people that are lying as well, bring you down. And, I am so sorry, that you have to be threatened for your life. Unreal-God Bless you Joy. You are an angel.

  32. Anonymous on

    This is going to be a great movie drama once Mr. Herer recovers.

  33. Anonymous on

    I dont have the book with me atm.

  34. Anonymous on

    I dont think Allegro’s theory was strictly on the Amanita Muscaria was it? I’m pretty sure he included other psychoactive mushrooms as other possible candidates.

  35. Chris Bennett on

    I don’t have Arthur’s book anymore, it was such crap i got rid of it.

    Post an example of something in there that you think is credible…

    The stuff about santa is reasonable, but that is from another researcher that Arthur poorly referenced.

  36. Chris Bennett on

    well i sell them in my shop, http://www.urbanshaman.net

    all plants, mushroom and cacti are sacred.

    I don’t agree with Allegro theory about the Fly Agaric, I don’t agree with Wasson’s theory about it being Soma (which i rip apart in my new book). It is and was definately used by Siberian Shaman.

    I know numbers of authors that have written about the amanita, like Carl Ruck and Jan Irvin. I have read a few books on it as well, like Wasson’s, Hienrich’s, Arthur’s, Allegro’s, Rucks….

  37. Anonymous on

    Can you provide one example please?

  38. Anonymous on

    perhaps you could elaborate….

  39. Anonymous on

    Do you have issue with the Amanita Muscaria itself ( as sacrament ) – do you feel this is erronous?

  40. Adam on

    amanita muscaria saved his life?! The fly agaric! That’s the red-and-white mushroom from the Super Mario Bros. series of video games.
    Talk about a 1-up!

    I think the fact that this mystery lady his friends don’t know SNUCK a DNT and a DNT onto him, and that his death is being falsely reported in the MSM screams CONSPIRACY.

  41. Chris Bennett on

    Re ‘unsubstantiated’?

    No actual archeological, historical or strong linguisitc docuementation. Just a bunch of wild interpretations.

  42. Chris Bennett on

    I overlooked it out of respect for jack and his situation. But since you bring it up, I thought Jack was way off in that regard as well, and i have had numbers of heated discussion with him on this. He wanted me to put a lot of that material in Green Gold the Tree of Life: Marijuana in Magic and Religion, which i refused, and it has remained a great point of contention between us over 15 years later.

    Why do you think there are those close to him who don’t want to see the book publsihed as they think it would harm Jack’s legacy? I see you overlooked that.

    I suppose I am looking more for historical relevance and documentation, rather than mere opinion.

    I could say a lot more about all of this, but out of respect for Jack’s situation……

  43. matt anderson on

    I know it probably doesn’t mean much coming from one person but my prayers are with you both in your time of need….I think marijuana is one the most same and effective forms of medicine out there and if there is anything i can do to help spread the word I will do it to the best of my abilities…also I have been trying to find ” The Emperor Wears No Clothes ” but am unable to find a copy, is there anything you can do to help…..if so my address is as follows

    Matt S. Anderson
    127 Main Street N. E.
    Albany Oregon 97321

    Thank you for your time and best wishes for a speedy recovery

    Matt S. Anderson

  44. Anonymous on

    James Dugovic [sic] Arthur was a convicted child molester.
    They do not list deceased people in the site.

    I knew James Arthur and there was something definitely wrong with this perv.

  45. Anonymous on

    What I meant about online vs printing was that I held no bias as to one or the other.

    Perhaps you could clarify what it is exactly you mean by ‘unsubstantiated’?

  46. Anonymous on

    I value books/written material not on are not who or what ‘substantiates’ them but what they actually have to say.

    From what I remember of the book it was mostly his opinion. So who exactly is going to substantiate someones opinion? besides, truth is truth substantiated or not. I personally liked the style of it… sure it was rough, but it felt real/pure even and had a life or energy ….. as good material should.

    My above point remains. Obviously Jack Herer himself thought James was onto something. So there is at least ONE person who is substantiating his material. I noticed you overlooked that in your response. =)

  47. Chris Bennett on

    he died in jail shortly after conviction, so likely was never registered. I met him, know Jack, and also Jan Irvin, who was close to the project.

  48. Chris Bennett on

    I’ve written 3 books, each about 5 times the size of James Arthur’s booklet Mushrooms and Mankind.

    Green Gold the Tree of Life: Marijuana in Magic and Religion, which Jack Herer wrote the forward for and called the companion to the Emperor Wears No Clothes
    http://csp.org/chrestomathy/green_gold.html

    Sex, Drugs, Violence and the Bible
    http://www.forbiddenfruitpublishing.com/SexDrugs/Book
    “The book is fascinating! There can be little doubt about a role for Cannabis in Judaic religion… there is no way that so important a plant as a fiber source for textiles and nutritive oils and one so easy to grow would have gone unnoticed, and the mere harvesting of it would have induced an entheogenic reaction.”
    -Professor of Classical Mythology at Boston University and author, Carl P. Ruck

    “Scholarly, hip, witty and extremely well documented… This book might cause a revolution in biblical studies!”
    -Robert Anton Wilson, Philosopher, Author and Lecturer

    “…SEX, DRUGS, VIOLENCE AND THE BIBLE is…excellent… especially in its detailing the early history… politics… [and] the… seamy sides of Christianity… Read Bennett before rereading the Bible!”
    -Jonathon Ott, Entheobotanist, Author and Lecturer

    “I love this information. Jesus used cannabis for healing and enlightenment!”
    -Dana Larsen, Editor of Cannabis Culture Magazine

    “The evidence this scholar presents will shake many deep-seated beliefs about the true nature of Judaism and Christianity”
    – High Times Magazine

    and Cannabis and the Soma Solution
    http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/big-bhang

    what books have you written?

  49. Bud on

    It’s sad to see “family” doing stuff like this. You may not remember the movie “Greedy” but you should review it. It’s actually what happens! It happened in my family and I was the only one to protect my grandmother from the “greedies.”

    If someone’s looking out for Jack, he’s mean enough to pull through this. Like it says in the article, Jack’s there, he just has to figure out the key to the door to get out. He’ll find it. We’re Rootin’ for ya, Jack!

  50. Chris Bennett on

    I have written 3 books, I have essays in others, and dozens of published articles,so I am not sure what your online vs printed matter reference is to.

    My criticism of James Arthur’s book has nothing to do with his pedophile charges and everything to do with reading it from cover to cover. It was a piece of unsubstantiated crap that was poorly referenced and docuemented. It didn’t even make my book collection. However, when I met James, he told me he liked my book.

  51. Chris Bennett on

    joy,
    your post here comes across as hysterical and vindictive. how do you know how Jack feels about any of this at this time? Clearly you need to stop attaching yourself to this and stop projecting your thoughts onto Jack and let his family deal with things.

  52. Anonymous on

    Nevermind about the book stuff – I see you have written articles online. And I am no respecter of ‘online’ vs. ‘real’ book writing.

    Chris, I’ve enjoyed your articles too. And so what does it say if one enjoys your work and ‘crap’ ?

    Don’t really get why you are so down on James Arthur. Do you really know all the facts behind what went on? I’m sure you dont. Just sounds kind of judgmental to me. And in a way for me that potentially compromises the integrity of the stuff you’ve written that I’ve enjoyed.

  53. Anonymous on

    You are welcome to your opinion on the book. I thought it was quite good myself.

    I guess Jack Herer did too since he was so into the amanita muscaria rituals and was willing to write a book with James Arthur.

    What books have you written?

  54. Anonymous on

    Two Things…

    (1)Many people are convicted of things, doesn’t mean they happened or that they are true. His name does not appear on the California sex registry ( fact ).

    (2)Don’t believe everything you read/hear.

  55. Fish on

    I met Jack through Capt. Ed back in the early 70’s.
    We lived near each other here in the valley until he moved north a few years ago.

    I know Jeannie and we have always gotten along great… we have shared many a good laugh and a lot of nice cannabis.

    I know Chuck…I knew him as Jack’s assistant and driver.

    I know Jack’s two beautiful daughters but I know Mark the best.

    I have seen B.J. (Jack’s youngest son) sprout from a knee high kid to an adult.

    After reading Joy Grave’s response and her just blasting of Chuck Jacobs I am feeling a lot of hatred in this woman and revenge on Chuck for what….she NEVER states what she is implying he gave Jack. I have heard rumors of E…but then again they are only rumors. So Joy … as long as you are here, what the hell are you implying?

    Chuck YOU ARE IN way over your head.

    Joy, you should not be Jack’s POA.

    You’re to fucking pissed you can’t see straight let alone be the person in charge of Jack’s well being.. Get him in a place that is cannabis friendly.

    ..and I will be real honest with you .. that POA was NOT filled out completely. When there is an incomplete section, as there was in that POA, unless noted.. it can make that POA void. I am sure that is the reason one place didn’t accept it.

    This is Goddamn SHAMEFUL what is going on.

    I can’t believe this circus atmosphere that began the moment he fell ill. Including MICHAEL STONE’S reporting of his death in the Portland Examiner online.. he didn’t even vette his source. Everyone had to be the FIRST to report his passing, even though he was still alive.

    This is THE LAST thing I would have expected in a situation such as this…In my opinion this is disgusting

  56. Joy M. Graves on

    Yes Chuck, I did list on your restraining order “adminstering controlled substances”, but YOU KNOW what of the “Substances” I am Irate about. You should NOT have given Jack an Alcohol based ANYTHING – you say you Know him so well than you Should have known Better than to do that because Alcohol is something he Should NOT have come into contact and Ingested! But We KNOW – YOU KNOW Chuck that it’s not the Cannabis Issue at ALL! Maybe you can claim you Didn’t know about the alcohol reaction that sent him into Kidney Faliure, BUT the OTHER you gave him – I hope you FRY in Hell because you had NO EXCUSE AT ALL for giving him something you KNEW could KILL HIM – there is absolutely NO EXCUSE and NO WAY you going to talk yourself out of that and you Know it! I have the proof, they have the proof, and You Know what you did, I don’t care ohw much of a “space Case” you say you are – you KNEW better – And then to give it to him Anyway, KNOWING it would Directly Affect his Heart, and then put DNR on him, I couldn’t figure out WHY, but now I get it – you Deserve to fry like the sick little rodent that you are Chuck – HOW DARE YOU go in there and Knowingly give Jack that POISON! And then a DNR – why….I see now why and HOW DARE YOU! And now you turn to JACK’S People, HIS friends who actually Care about him, and play it off as you love Jack so much – bullshit – you do NOT or you wouldn’t have done what you did!! Yeah I’m calling bullshit on you Chuck – because there’s absolutely No Excuse – the Proof is in the medical records, and if it’s my Last Dying Breath – I will use it in telling the World the Truth about the harm You’ve done to Jack- in the Hopes that you FRY for it! Beg the world for money, because people “know” you because you were with Jack you’ll probabily get some – use HIS name as your Excuse to get money – why not, She Is and “claiming” it’s for HIM and his Sake, but you and I KNOW – you about KILLED Jack Herer – YOU, ITENTIONALLY almost killed him Charles Jacobs, and then you put a DNR on top of what you did – it looks like to Ensure his death. You make me SICK. I have been trying to keep him alive, yet I’m “the bad guy” – I didn’t get it before, but I sure as hell do now. F**k ME, oh no my friend, Jack’s going to f**k you – and I’m going to help make Sure he does, whether He can do it himself right now or not – you deserve to Pay for what yo did and I hope they lock you up and throw away the Key!
    It’s a Good thing I’d Reversed that DNR when I did or no-one would have known and Jack would have been dead! There would have been no ride to the hospital and no tests to show what a dangerous Theat you are to him. All of us would have kept on Believing you tha yo cared so much for Jak, but you Don’t.
    I am not only Very Disappointed in you like I was before – now – I am Disgusted…. you KNOW BETTER than to give him shit like That – you KNOW how he feels about that POISON. You know, and yet you CHOSE to do it anyway – SICKENING, absolutely SICKENING!!!
    There is no excuse for what you have done, I don’t care WHO you say gave it to you and told you to do it – you were WRONG in listening to them annd in doing it for christ sakes, and you cannot be THAT Stupid to not have known what it would have caused – YOU did it anyway -f**king INSANE, you are f**king Insane, and if you don’t have eough Common Sence to not do something so Outrageously Stupid – you Deserve what there going to do to you… and you DO NOT Deserve to be entrusted with the mans life, not At ALL! Your just lucky you’ll be Long Gone by the time Jack & I catch up with you, or it’d be ALOT Worse I PROMACE YOU!
    I am going to do EVERYTHING in my power to Protect Jack from the likes of you and all your little “co-conspirators”. I know now without a Doubt what you guy’s intentions are, and I’m understanding now WHY you people Don’t want Jack to “Wake up and get better”, why you don’t Want to Admit to the world that he Has woken up and that he CAN do a degree of the things you Swear to the world he cannot. HE CAN, he HAS and he WILL again when your out of his way. He Chooses not to deal with the likes of you guys because he KNOWS what your up to… I’m the one wo had no clue, but now I do -crystal clear I do! He doesn’t talk to you because he Doesn’t Want to – DUH! He is MAD at you guys and you All Know it and you know wh better than I do! He doesn’t want to put forth effort for you because he doesn’t want to be with you people – why else would he do these things for other people… if he coudn’t, then he Wouldn’t have been able to at ALL period – and the Records Prove he has. They Prove that he responds with us an NOT with you – 1+1 – 1+1! LOOK at the Records – 1+1, that’s all I can say!
    1+1=2 – NOT 9 no matter how hard you try to insist that it’s 9 – it’s NOT, and how ever many people foolishly believe YOU that it is, and Blindly buy into “Your version” – it’s not There fault, there just Mis-Lead. I said before and I’ll say it again – JACK IS THE PUDDING you dumbasses and as long as I live and breathe, I will help make sure HE LIVES so that ALL OF YOU Know WHOSE Really on JACK’S SIDE and whose NOT. I want him to live – because I KNOW I’m on HIS side and I Know HE Knows that – I GENUINELY care about him and I Know he will be Thanking ME, while he’s Tossing all of YOU out of his life, and you know it – you KNOW IT, and that’s why the conspiracy has began, and that’s why all your little “secret meetings and plannings” – that’s why people who Cannot STAND one anoher are suddenly striking “deals” over Jack’s life and playing friends – that’s why “Permanent positions of POWER are being legally seeked” because you KNOW that should JACK resume HIS LIFE – your ALL out on you Greedy little Selfish ASSES, and ya don’t want THAT do ya!
    Your right – I am after your ass – For JACK’S SAKE. And YES it IS SAD and Heartbraking like people say – bcause he expected this from them – but NOT YOU CHUCK, not you. WHEN Jack Recovers, you’d ALL better RUN because I’m pointing him toward ALL of you and I’m TELLING HIM EXACTLY what ALL of you have been doing, I’m SHOWING him all the Records PROVING it, and he’s going to be out for ALL of your Asses, I guarentee it! And if I don’t live to see that day, fine, because I’ve given the proof to people I KNOW will give it all to him – I will die Happy, knowing I’ve saved my dear friend, and that he will have his Justice on your asses. And when he learns what you’ve put Me through… oh yeah, he’s coming for you guys, there’s not a Doubt in MY Mind! Jack CARES about me, for 13 YEARS he’s Cared about me, and I about him – unconditionally! I will give my LIFE to protect him and maybe THAT’s why he drug me in this mess, because he knew many of you didn’t truely give a shit and Wouldn’t stand up t try to protect him – he might not have realized it about you Chuck, but sure as shit, he’s going to know it when eveythins said and done now huh.
    You’d better HOPE the system get’s you first, because Jack Herer is NOT going to let you get away with what you’ve done. I’m going to stall you, until HE can STOP you ALL – once and for ALL. He will – believe in Jack, he WILL make you ALL pay for the harm you have done!!! He WILL get better, if I have any say abut of it, I PROMACE the WORLD that!! Come on Jack, I’m ready…. let’s DEAL with this already!!! Let the “system” have what’s left when We’re done with them, let’s nail thse f**kers to the cross for what they’ve done to you!!!! I love you pappa Jack, and I’m right here waiting for you to take the healm and lead the way! Let’s get through this and get you home where you want to be and where YOU belong – let’s get you well…. I love you JACK!!!!

  57. John Sajo on

    Anyone who knows Jack knows that he is a true believer in the power of hemp oil. He would absolutely want cannabinoids to be a part of his treatment.

    Jeannie assisted by my friend and colleague, Beau, was at Jack’s bedside from the first moment that was possible after his heart attack. They sat with him nearly 24/7 and tried to navigate the extremely difficult challenge of him being able to medicate with cannabis while he was being cared for by institutions that were at best skeptical.

    Joy’s actions have resulted in Jack being at a facility where cannabis is denied. We had much better options that have been prevented because Jeannie has had to spend so much time and energy just fighting for her right to care for her critically ill husband.

    If Joy were concerned about Jack, why on earth would she deny his lifelong friends like Elvy Musikka and myself the ability to visit him. I have known and worked with Jack from almost before Joy was even born.

    This story leaves out much. Many of Jack’s friends have been trying to help. Voter Power provided Jeannie a place to stay while she cared for Jack. We also hosted a benefit fo his expenses on November 28.

    I believe Joy’s actions are criminal. To deny a wife the ability to care for her husband under these circumstances is not the action of a compassionate caring person. Everything about this so called power of attorney is very fishy. You should investigate that if you want to claim to be doing real journalism. There are jurisdiction issues that challenge the validity of this power of attorney. The witness is Joy’s friend. I was with Jack that day at Hempstalk before we both spoke. He did not say a word to me about this document or giving control of his life to an aquaintance like Joy.

    Some people are worried about getting their cut of the not finished book actually written by the pedophile. Jack’s real friends are trying to figure out how to honor his deepest desire – to always have that perhaps life saving input of cannabinoids.

    The real tragedy is that in spite of all our accomplishments with medical marijuana, the Emperor of Hemp, my friend and mentor, Jack Herer is being denied his choice of medical cannabis as you read these words.

    John Sajo

  58. Chris Bennett on

    James Arthur was a convicted pedophile and his book ‘Mushrooms and Mankind’ was a piece of unsubstantiated crap.

  59. shannon on

    Well… is all i can say. It feels like reality tv doesn’t it folks? If this is what comes of being “famous” i want nothing of it. I feel for his children.

  60. Thank you on

    Jack please know THE WORLD IS WATCHING~ Your “Wife” cannot do any more harm w/o it being shown. She is very inconsistent with all her “explaining.”
    If Jeannie gets guardianship or Mark gets conservatorship, even Jack will not be allowed to make his own decisions. Powers Of Attorney can be revoked. Guardian/Conservatorships are forever.
    Exactly what Jack tried to protect himself from. Mark was in Oregon, if he wanted his Son to have say over him he would have named him then. He didn’t do that because he did not trust Mark or Jeannie. Chuck only has enough smarts to fit in a thimble, he belongs a wannabe musician and Driver. Poor Jack to put his trust in one terminally ill woman who strives to keep DNR’s etc.. off of him. Sounds like she does have his best interest at heart. Alot of people judged too quick…Sorry for believing in his Wife, I didn’t know!
    God Bless The Emperor!!!

  61. D on

    I would like to offer a point of possible contention in this Article. “James Arthur” who was to be the co-author of “The Most High” was found hung in his cell – his family (from my research) suspect foul play while the jailers say it was suicide.

    What I want to know is How/Where/When is this book ‘The Most High’ going to be out? or the manuscripts/information he was writing about? – very important!

  62. Dan-o on

    Thank you for the intelligible article, I was lost when trying to read from Jack’s web site. I pray he is well enough soon to kick some ass. Somewhere in that mess is some ass needing kicked. Long live the emporer of hemp!

  63. Jomila on

    Man what a mess! Sorry to here about all this bullshit, it’s a shame Jack cant communicate to set everybody straight. My thoughts and prayers are with you Jack, keep taking that Hemp oil and “Every little ting, gonna be alright”.

  64. jeremiah on

    This was a tough story to write. It is a sad, complicated situation. I believe everyone involved cares about Jack very much – unfortunately, the disagreements end up hurting the one everyone is trying to help.

    Many thanks to Chuck, Joy, Jeannie, Eve and everyone interviewed for opening up to me and CC’s readership and sharing this personal and difficult story.

    Best wishes to Jack, his family and friends from everyone at Cannabis Culture.