Schizophrenia and young people… Does cannabis make it worse?

I received a letter on Facebook from a concerned mother whose son uses cannabis and has schizophrenia. She asked me to tell young people that cannabis is bad for their mental health. While some cannabis proponents would tell her she’s “wrong, ignorant, misinformed” etc., I chose to provide a calm, rational and honest rebuttal that should encourage her to look for the truth herself.

Here’s what I wrote to her:

Hello Janet,

I understand that parents are concerned about the reports of psychosis and schizophrenia being worsened because of cannabis use, but I must let you know that those reports are highly (excuse the pun) exaggerated.

For example, one of the studies used to “prove” a link utilized synthetic THC being injected into British men, which resulted in a negative psychological effect. However, no one injects cannabis, and certainly not pure synthetic THC! Additionally, the incidence of schizophrenia has not risen at all since the 1960s when marijuana use became popular. More people smoke marijuana than ever before, but schizophrenia rates have not gone up. It’s true that people who are already prone to develop schizophrenia may be negatively affected by marijuana use, but that group is very, very small and has no relation to the general public or the majority of young people, so the laws should not impact their harmless lifestyle and choice to use cannabis.

Also, there are many studies to disprove the assertion that cannabis use worsens schizophrenia, such as this recent one: http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/Schizophrenia-link-cannabis-denied/article-1288926-detail/article.html

Here’s another editorial that links to a study: http://blog.mpp.org/research/can-thc-help-some-schizophrenics/06042009/

In addition, the “expert” being employed to study the so-called link between cannabis and schizophrenia is actually religiously fundamental zealot who believe that drug use is the devil’s way of possessing people. He is entirely unqualified for the scientific job he’s been given, and should concern Canadians who expect our government to be open, honest, unbiased and accountable. Here’s an article about the anti-drug pastor our government is paying (with our tax dollars) to study cannabis: http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/harper-appoints-evangelical-pastor-study-marijuana-and-schizophrenia

Marc and I have many young people learning from us and being inspired by us to ask questions, be individually responsible, and to lead active, healthy, critical-thinking lifestyles. We have helped many young people find the truth they are seeking without police and politician interference/direction, and many have told us their lives are much improved because of what they have learned from us. My husband may be more “fanatical” than I am in his message delivery, but I always ensure I’m being balanced and open-minded about what I tell people.

I hope you will look into the research about cannabis and mental health beyond what I have shared here. There is nothing better a person can do than independent research to inform themselves.

Also, we promote ending drug prohibition so young people are no longer able to get marijuana and other drugs with such ease. Under prohibition, teens are more able to get drugs than alcohol or cigarettes; if we really want to educate our children and keep them away from drugs, we need a legal, taxed and regulated system of drug control with honest information instead of ignorant or vague scare tactics and disprovable theories. Young people will be more likely to not use drugs if they are legal, and they will not be so induced by the rebellious, “cool” aspect of illegal marijuana. Right now, under prohibition, gangs control the drug trade and sell to young people; additionally, young people are drawn to sell drugs because of the enormous profit to be made. If we end prohibition, the price will plummet and young people will not be so inclined to join the gang lifestyle for the “cool” and wealthy ends it provides.

I hope this was informational and I appreciate your message and concerns! Let me know if there’s anything else you’d like to discuss.

Kind regards,
Jodie

Jodie Emery
Jodie Emery

Jodie Emery is a Canadian cannabis activist, politician and business owner. She is the wife of activist Marc Emery, and owner of Cannabis Culture Magazine, Pot TV, Cannabis Culture Lounge and Cannabis Culture Headquarters.

Comments

74 Comments

  1. Anonymous on

    FUCK OFF! CBC TERRY YOU FUCK!

  2. Tokin Terry on

    Schizophrenia is just one of your problems

  3. Tokin' Terry on

    Are you any relation to Alice Cooper?

  4. Anonymous on

    If only Marc hadn’t given away all that 4 mil, he could have paid his own bail and then skipped the country like the 70s New York heroin kingpin, Frank Matthews. They set his bail at a million or two, he paid it and was never seen again. That’s why you should always set aside a million or two. Your freedom is worth it and they’ll let you buy it. Nice of them, huh? Most of the time, it’ll be a lot than that anyway.

  5. Anonymous on

    stop smokin that crack laced pot terry you young fudgepacking fool

  6. Anonymous on

    Terry, you’re not the only one who feels the way you speak. You just seem to think we’re worth talking to. //

    the majority of Canadian and Americans are not interested in seeing pot legalized, Especially since the leaders of pot culture have shown themselves as selfish, manipulative apologists for the negative effects of their disciples concerning all things druggie. Cannabis is a powerful mood altering substance- and as we can see some of the old farty stoners on this thread are in bad drug induced moods, So we call their bluff, thats the debate business
    Are you worth talking to? Some of you are worth talking to , the rest are boring hostile humorless stuck in decades old frozen drugs-&-society concepts – typical of closed old minds,, regardless of their real time age

  7. Tokin' Terry Rides Again on

    // Terry, putting extra pages into his books will get you charged with Libel, at the very least.
    Go do it, so we can get you out of our hair for a few years. //

    It wouldn’t be libel if i the information is true so what’s your point?

    I had planned to sign them all with my home address and maybe add a recent photograph. And a set of fingerprints make it easy for the BC Marijuana officials to track me down to my secret den in Alberta..
    Waiting here with the Aryan Nation./ DARE honor guard ..

    Don’t you have a bag of fan leaves to bake into a space cake of something?

  8. Anonymous on

    Terry, putting extra pages into his books will get you charged with Libel, at the very least.

    Go do it, so we can get you out of our hair for a few years.

  9. Adam on

    @ Terry: Finally, we agree on something.
    It’s not hard to figure out why we agree on THIS issue, Terry, so try to remember we share some common threads.

    For example, Terry, you’re not the only one who feels the way you speak. You just seem to think we’re worth talking to.

    WHY? LET US SAVE YOU! 😛

  10. Anonymous on

    At least you finnaly told the truth terry. Now please go abort your self like your mama should have done years ago. It’s easy just take one of those dildos shoved up your ass and shove it in your eye.

  11. 'Tokin 'Terry on

    Your right I am an hipacrit cbc employee who pushes my ideals down peoples throat like my cock down my mothers throat and I dont accept any other ideals. I agree with free speech but only with those that agree with me. My real name is Peter Mansbridge and a very apropriat one it is for I am constanly bent over taking it up the ass.

    Tokin Terry.

  12. Anonymous on

    You are a hell of a case for post birth abortion Terry you ageist loser. You probably dont respect your elsers because you are a crack baby or somthing. Eat shit and die asshole.

  13. Elder Bashin' Tokin' Terry on

    I am sorry, at 26 years of age. ( born 1983- brain dead 2009 )
    you are not, technically old fart-
    you are a young fart, & a wet one at that – behaving like an old fart..

    So .. now that that is straightened out..smarten up you young old acting fart

    PS Government Officials do not work on saturdays.. you paranoid young fart

  14. Tokin' Terry Rides Again on

    How hard would it have been to call one of them up and ask them if any of their clients have had problems with cannabis?

    What about client confidentiality? Protecting your patients basic rights from intrusive snoopers such as you suggest we do,, Uh Uh Dr Dave that’s a no no
    Confidentiality a sacred & basic right in health service, even alternative ones such as the stoner clubs you promote. Maybe Pot made you forget that, either that or you are criminally incompetent .. take your pick- which is it ?? choose one or more

    Based on your response , we can only imagine that when you ran your own pot distribution/compassion center, you were glad to blab confidential information over the phone to every kook, crank and narc who dialed you up looking for a healing QP for the weekend.. and a lively session of case history story time.

    Strain selection? what’s on tap this week dealer man? How reliable are these strains the criminal underclass bring in your back door?? Are they the sketchy derivatives from the Marc Emery seed empire ? Here’s hoping NOT

    Of course you did proper chemical cannabinoid profiles of each sample before you offer them to the health compromised public?? Hmmmmmmm? We think maybe you just gave random hits from bagweed to your lab monkey friends.. and if they passed out it was medical grade.

    Try wearing a white lab coat to work so we don’t have to believe you

  15. Anonymous on

    good impression of Tokin’ Terry the disrepectful ageist turd.

  16. Anonymous on

    Fuck off with calling down your elders. If it wasn’t for them your pitiful ass wouldnt even be born. Have some fucking respect for your elders you hate filled puke.How could you call yourself Tokin terry anyway? I bet your a government official. Ageist fucking asshole!

  17. Anonymous on

    What the fuck do you have against your elders other than the fact they have far more experience and wisdom to you? I’m only 26 so don’t go calling me an “old fart” you ageist prick. Have some fucking respect for your elders “Tokin’ Terry” you puke.

  18. Anonymous on

    That’s crazy talk. Does kind of explain why Marc didn’t skip the country though. Didn’t want to make his brother lose his house, even if he is a delusional worshiper of a 1st century Jewish Rabbi.

  19. Testimonial Tokin' Terry on

    // That is very inappropriate,
    to imply that Jodie would not
    wait chastely for Marc’s return.//

    _ very inappropriate

  20. Treason for a Reason Tokin' Terry on

    //In addition, the “expert” being employed to study
    the so-called link between cannabis and schizophrenia
    is actually religiously fundamental zealot
    who believe that drug use
    is the devil’s way of possessing people. //

    ya right– a five minute search online shows that Marc Emerys’ bail was paid by a Fundimentalist Christian Pastor- his own big brother in London Ontario. –the satanic REVERAND EMERY put his family home up on the block to save the Princes’ sorry little ass,,

    well OK –

    // My husband may be more “fanatical” than I am
    in his message delivery, but I always ensure
    I’m being balanced and open-minded about what I tell people.//

    and he tells you crap and then you tell us his crap,
    in other words, you – you are fanatical as well
    but it takes a few minutes longer for it hit the screen

    well OK –

    // but I always ensure I’m being balanced
    and open-minded about what I tell people.//

    then you hit the delete button

    well OK-

    // I hope you will look into the research
    about cannabis and mental health beyond
    what I have shared here//

    we did! guess what– check your deleted posts folder

    well OK-

    // There is nothing better ( than )
    a person can do than independent research
    to inform themselves.//

    studies have shown _beer is better than independent research by 52%

    when is Marcs confessional Mein Kampf autoBio coming out ?
    We as loyal Canadians would like to know
    so we can guerilla insert a few ” extra” pages
    into display copies at Chapters

  21. Anonymous on

    That is very inappropriate, to imply that Jodie would not wait chastely for Marc’s return.

  22. Transgressor Tokin' Terry on

    ” Marc and I have many young people
    learning from us and being inspired
    by us to ask questions,
    be individually responsible,
    and to lead active, healthy,
    critical-thinking lifestyles….”

    and when we show one dot of critical thinking your erace it ! !

  23. Transformer Tokin" Terry on

    Hmm.. just some stale old farty stoner with make believe oppression rants-
    and a guy with a 420 boner for Mrs Emery–

    some of our posts, were erased overnight by the Pot Liberation death squad
    because nobody here can keep up with debate or logic. & IT SHOWS

    Online undercover RCMP cadets-case dismissed/ waste of resources

    3 weekends till Marc Emery surrenders to the DEA- party ends
    7-8 weekends till harvest- party begins

    The Big Question remains:
    will they still have the breakfast special in the cafeteria..??

  24. o on

    i call dibs on jodie’s ass when marc goes away

    o

  25. Anonymous on

    god you a fuckup everything Mrs. Emery said was correct you just seems like some drug warrior who got bored and decided to attack legalizer’s on their own site. why don’t you just go back and talk to the people who like you at DEA.net? fuckin shit disturber you have no right to question Mrs. Emery’s experience for all us other posters know you could be some 9 year old Drug cops son

  26. Tokin Terry 2 on

    //Is this the best subterfuge work of 2 farty old stoners ?
    pretending to be the authentic Tokin’ Terry ?//

    This is the best I can do. I just dont know how to stop all my angry thoughts. Why am I always right?

  27. Anonymous on

    Maybe the son would have been even crazier if he had NOT smoked dope. The dope served as an anti-psychotic sedative. Who can kill people with a machete when they’re couchlocked? She didn’t say that he had killed anyone while stoned, so it must be working.

  28. Treacherous Tokin' terry on

    // Im a pissed off Pussy now! What else can I say? //

    Is this the best subterfuge work of 2 farty old stoners ?
    pretending to be the authentic Tokin’ Terry ?
    ——-MAYBE TRY AGAIN AFTER YOU EXHALE——-

    No wonder you get busted by rookie cops
    routinely grow ripped by your felon friends
    and cheated off by strangers in the black market

    You make prohibition look like a social service for dumb old pot goons

  29. Tokin Terry on

    //That was one fun week long survey of long term geriatric psychiatric marijuana slugs.Drifting off topic, and reverting to name calling..//

    Im a pissed off Pussy now! What else can I say?

  30. Anonymous on

    //I have not nor ever been on meds

    that’s why we’re concerned about you, Terry

  31. Terrible Tokin" Terry on

    A desperate mother with a Schizophrenic son who abuses pot writes to the princess of pot to WARN HER.. this lady knows of what she speaks, gained from hard won true life experience,
    This same lady, a mother who had endured the consequences of weed on her wacky son sees young Jodie E becoming a dopetard ( her slide downhill is on Youtube) and this good lady cares enough about Jodie Emery- the 3rd bride of the Prince of Pot to warn her to lay off the weed and maybe get a life while she still can make something of herself other than 420 pinup girl & quickly aging bong bearer to the criminal underclass

    “She asked me to tell young people
    that cannabis is bad for their mental health”.

    What does Mrs Emery do?
    – blames prohibition for everything wrong
    -blabs on with pot liberation infomercial loops
    -betrays a confidence by identifying the lady as ” Janet”

    then two farty old stoners, guardians of the eternal ashtray rise up and change the channel before flopping back down into your brown couches of terminal redundancy. Thats great guys,, keep that Olympic gold sass coming.. we will be back at lunch break tomorrow to see if you have set yourselves on fire or not.

    That was one fun week long survey of long term geriatric psychiatric marijuana slugs.Drifting off topic, and reverting to name calling..
    You made our point for us, great quotes, thanks !

  32. Totally Tokin' Terry on

    This is turning into a supercharged high end debate
    followed by millions of lurkers in the ANONYMOUS SOCIETY

    Look out Gramps! Stephen Harper is at the door wearing an SS uniform

  33. Tenacious Tokin' Terry on

    It’s been great discussing Marijuana induced Schizophrenia with a player

    PS: what does Thinking outside the bun mean ?
    Nobody I asked knew what you were trying to say
    is that advanced 420 linguist swordplay or did you mispell ” B O X ”

  34. Anonymous on

    DOUCHE! I hate people like you who are easily indoctrinated by your own government.

    Ever think outside the bun?

    SO it’s ok for everyone else to use pot but hhmm,, us?

    I’m KNOW there are many many More intelligent and succesful people than you , TERRY, that still use pot, coz they are choosing a safer alternative.. yet you still bust balls…

    FUCK YOU>

  35. Anonymous on

    Well, let’s see how this started out. Jodie said a lady contacted her and “She asked me to tell young people that cannabis is bad for their mental health”.

    Obviously, Jodie couldn’t do that because she hasn’t seen any good evidence to that effect. She has, however, seen evidence to the contrary and she pointed out where such information could be found. I fail to see what she did wrong there. Would Terry have preferred that she agreed to tell everyone that Cannabis is bad for their mental health, as the lady requested? That would have been very irresponsible, not to mention a flat out lie. I guess the lady should have contacted Terry instead. He’ll be only too happy to do as she asked.

  36. Bonesnoff on

    Cannabis as a medicine shouldn’t be expected to work the same for everyone. Even aspirin doesn’t work the same for everyone. There is some possibility that cannabis may be useful in detecting or triggering psychosis in some,but with the majority of users it has a seeming opposite effect. Like most meds it’s all in how and who use it.
    “may” and “if” aside, the one thing I think we can agree on is that more scientific research should be done on the medical possibilities of cannabis and it’s derivative chemicals. Notice the word SCIENTIFIC. As a citizen of the US it brings me some small pleasure to see our great neighbors to the North appointing a religeous man to oversee what should be a scientific inquiry. Now you’ll get a small taste of what it was like living here for 8 years of Bush.
    Tokin Terry, don’t ever change man. Your wave making keeps the discussion from getting stale and boring.

  37. Brian Kerr on

    “How is making it legal going to keep kids from doing it?”

    Every survey of young people have found that it is harder to buy alcohol and tobacco that it is to buy illegal drugs.

    Why? Because the purveyors of tobacco and alcohol card young people because if they don’t they will loose their license to sell tobacco or alcohol. Because it is the law.

    If cannabis was legal the sellers would be legitimate business governed by laws and regulations just like the tobacco and alcohol sellers are.

    Will there be leakage (young people getting drugs that they should not have ?) yes. That leakage would be a regulated safe government inspected product and not the *bathtub gin* like potentially dangerous street drugs. Which can be purchased easily off the street.

    The point is not whether kids will be able to get drugs it is that they will not be able to purchase them.

    Will there be a black market after prohibition is repealed ?
    No. at leased not to any significant degree. There are no school yard beer sales. No school yard beer sales person could make any money from it. Same with drugs when legalized.

  38. Anonymous on

    Yep, people don’t get what the troll is about and are still feeding it.

  39. Anonymous on

    Everyday we are learning more and understanding the Endo Cannabinoid System and they are starting to find different levels that everyone has. When schizophrenics have been tested regarding their endo cannabinoid system they found they either produce to much or not enough and that could be what is causing controversy on Cannabis and Schizophrenia because some are producing a level in which Cannabis is detrimental and others beneficial.

  40. Anonymous on

    He ignores any of your points and insults anything he can find stop talking to this idiot COP.

  41. Anonymous on

    Be a cop

  42. orissacube on

    Sorry Terry your right apologies my friend

    by the way can I have your children

  43. T REX Tokin' Terry on

    // and for you to suggest that I should be incarcerated for is obscene.//

    hey Mr Businessman:
    glad I caught you at home’
    I guess this is one of your spiritual days off

    Please reread above posts if necessary, carefully

    nobody mentioned anything even close to punishing you for sparking up
    or came within lightyears proximity of suggesting jailing you, or your slippers

    yours sincerely,
    ” People like You… etc . ”

  44. Totalitarian Tokin' Terry on

    Absolute rubbish Michael Phelps was caught using cannabis after he won 8 gold medals.//

    1) won the medals,
    2) got outted on YouTube
    3) claimed he made a big mistake using marijuana
    4) THEN he quit smoking for keeps

    he gave up pot for Corn Flakes, and you know it

  45. Tokin' Terry on

    // People like you want to impose your beliefs on me is outrageous totalitarian fascism of the worse kind.//

    pussy

  46. Dan on

    The key thing to remember that people with mental illnesses is the last thing you want to do is marginalize them. Instead of focussing their efforts on the right or wrong of cannabis use, the efforts should be focussed on where they need to be.

    I don’t think there is a correlation between cannabis use and mental illness, but it could very well be the case that the child in question is using cannabis and avoiding dealing with other important life steps such as studying, making friends, and building up confidence.

    Cannabis should be legal, for adults, but this does not mean it may not have an impact on children.

    Coffee, Alcohol, and excess sugar at a young age can have detrimental affects. Teens skipping class to smoke a joint, and failing grades is a serious issue and can affect their future life.

    If government legalized it, ran legitimate medical studies, and did realistic messaging urging moderation and safe usage, it would make sense.

    I would urge cannabis advocates not to be overzealous and treat cannabis as a “miracle drug”. Instead focus on it having legitimate medicinal qualities for chronic pain relief, as well as being a safe substance when used moderately.

    For parents who suspect their children have issues with substances, love them and don’t drive them away. Don’t condemn them smoking an odd joint, but help them get activities up that they can focus on. Having no focus is much worse at a young age than being high.

  47. orissacube on

    Absolute rubbish Michael Phelps was caught using cannabis after he won 8 gold medals.

    Look my friend Terry I respect your view that you don’t want to use cannabis but to impose your moralistic beliefs on others is an infringement of my freedom.

    We have one life and I how I want to life it is no business of yours. I have used weed for over 30 years I have a lovely family and a thriving business that is over 25 years old. I work 3 days a week because I have enough sense to realise that there is more to life than earning vast sums of money. Cannabis a 2 to 3 times a week indulgence is life enhancing and spiritually uplifting and for you to suggest that I should be incarcerated for is obscene.

    People like you want to impose your beliefs on me is outrageous totalitarian fascism of the worse kind.

    Live your life my friend love your family and fellow man and appreciate that we are all differant. This means we must allow each other the freedom to make informed decisons on how we live our life.

    Someone today came out with a great statistic from the UK more people died last year from tripping over their slippers than from cannabis……lets criminalise.discriminate slipper wearers…whos with me

  48. Anonymous on

    That is why everyone here should know him as he is, and I know he is; Officer Tokin’ Terry who obviously doesn’t toke or do anything other then incite unrest, Officer Terry.
    Everywhere on this board you do this, I have yet to see any positive feed back on any conversation except to be an ASS.. lol
    So everyone try and ignore him because The Officer might get upset and spill his coffee.

  49. Tokin' Terry on

    Dude- these so called Pot Superstars of sports, culture and politics you refer to as examples of THC wonderfulness have all QUIT WEED – some of them many years or decades ago. What’s your point ?

    Thanks for sharing the sad story of your life

  50. Anonymous on

    Damnit, i guess I took one toke over the line and develpoed schiz.! oops ther it goos agin.

    I duno about the rest of you, I have been around pot most of my life. My BOTH my dads (step and father) are alcoholics, which actually seems to cause schiz. if you really wanna talk abou it, TERRY ever drink booze?

    Anyways, I have seen the pot policies ripen to a good fulcrum on which nowadays, even PRESIDENTIAL candidates admit to smoking weed. Not only that but the worlds GREATEST SWIMMER is a bong ripper, oh wait, he has schizo.. No wait Obama does, no wait, clinton does, no wait, everyone I know is, no wait, I getting it now, damnit.

    Seroiusly, if reefer DID induse schizofrenia there would be an epidemic in one of the pot friendliest COLLEGES I know and where I live… Some of the most intelligent people live where I live, entrepeneurs , students, professionals, it would appear no glut in the SCHIZO market here!

    But it could be all the binge drinking that is preventing it.LOL

  51. Tokin' Terry on

    So lets get away from this dead end argument about harmful or harmless and concentrate on equality before the law ??

    this is more like it: Change the law, stand equal before the law.
    live responsibly within the law, shape destiny : be a man; not a victim

  52. orissacube on

    I live in the UK where the schizophrenia psychosis myth seems to be the most prevalent.

    The Home secretary used this fear to reclassify cannabis so that users faced 5 years instead of 2 for using. Yet she was in possesion of the Keele Univeristy report that showed no increase in either schizophrenia or psychosis.This report has the largest sample size of any taken in the UK on a supposed link between cannabis use schizophrnia and psychosis and showed no link between cannabis use and either of those 2 conditions.

    This government sponsered report was buried for almost a year before being quietly released.To virtually no media coverage.

    Yet I think that arguing about the dangers or not of cannabis gets us nowhere. I would certainly not support anyone encouraging under 18’s to use any drug and that includes caffeine aswell as cannabis.

    As adults we have the right to equal and non discrimitory treatment before the law. As long as my actions hurt noone and are not a nuisance to society then I should have the right as an individual to not be interfered with. This is about persoanl freedom not the moral judgement of my actions by others.
    If I choose to use cannabis instead of say alcohol or tobacco in a society based on equality I should be treated the same as those that choose the former.
    If my choice of religion was used to criminalise and discriminate against me any fair society would be up in arms. Yet this is what happens about my choice of cannabis as an intoxicant.

    So lets get away from this dead end argument about harmful or harmless and concentrate on equality before the law. As a free independent individual what I choose to put into my body as long as it hurts noone else is my business only and noone elses.
    If when using cannabis I stupidly get in a car or break the law then I should expect the full weight of the law for that offense not for using cannabis.
    The reason that the UK Government admitted for keeping cannabis illegal and alcohol not has nothing to do with harm it is and I quote “because of historical and cultural precedents” the very same reasons that gays and women had to fight to get equal rights.

    So lets not encourage any kids under 18 to ues any drug but once and adult we must allow our citizens personal freedom and responsibitity for there actions.

  53. Tokin' Terry on

    // Terry (or is it Andrew or Rob today), you’re just some bored guy on disability who likes to troll the forums. We’re on to you.//

    hey, we both know you are making this all up– I am not three people, nor bored, nor on disability nor a troll.. And so maybe this schizophrenia + cannabis link is really flipping you out worse than you can handle. This is pure koo koo projection on your part pal , and we both know this,, but I am the only one of us admitting it.If you are worried that your pot use is causing electrical disturbances in your brain, maybe get some help. It wouldn’t hurt to get a tune up if you are a chronic and its been many years since you came up for air.

    and yourthe article you included is , well, sort of fucked, The expert conclusions at the end are –OPINION– by the national co ordinator of a UK legalize Cannabis Org,, a pot fanclub- a civilian 420 smokehole in the UK barking into a hole in the ground- and this impresses you as expert opinion?

    Well we came to this website to find out about pot and how to grow it, Some of that was awesome,, but when we looked around in the p;olitics and medicine areas here, it was a bunch of stoner fantasy crap- cloud watching zero cred stuff that only old permanently stoned old farts would toss around to pump up their dead 60s’ lost horizon view of cannabis and its place in the modern world ,. And your fiction projections don;t help your side one bit Grampa Garcia. calling me a troll because you don;t like what you hear is four star retarded.

    It.s no wonder the powers that be don;t pay any attention to your demands for legalization, none at all. 40 years of fucking around with pot legalization and nothing to show for it, Sorry to be harsh,, but your best activist years may have passed and here you are, stalled at the intersection of social change. – please move on or get towed..
    When marc Emery goes away will it be people like you who will be taking the torch to change to drug laws|? For heavens sakes don’t talk to the media,or government or social scientists// because you will send the legalization movement back yet another 25 years.. its losing altitude every day with perma stoned paranoid old farts like you playing tough guy Mr Take Charge .. but with nothing to say except what you are afraid of– on a loop

    find a recycle box and get in it.. early retirement with a detox option –
    maybe look into it. thank you, now beat it back to your bong

  54. Anonymous on

    Terry (or is it Andrew or Rob today), you’re just some bored guy on disability who likes to troll the forums. We’re on to you.

    Jodie, you should talk to Karlis about putting in “troll voting” on the comments. Some people actually take this piece of shit seriously.

    FYI…

    http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/Schizophrenia-link-cannabis-denied/article-1288926-detail/article.html

    A STUDY by North Staffordshire academics has rejected a link between
    smoking cannabis and an increase in mental illness.

    The research found there were no rises in cases of schizophrenia or
    psychoses diagnosed in the UK over nine years, during which the use of
    the drug had grown substantially.

    Pro-cannabis campaigners seized on the results as supporting the
    legalising of cannabis, and claimed the report had been suppressed.

    But the leading expert behind the study said it could be too low-key
    to re-ignite the debate on whether restrictions should be removed from
    soft drugs.

    From their base at the Harplands Psychiatric Hospital in Hartshill,
    the four experts reviewed the notes of hundreds of thousands of
    patients at 183 GP practices throughout the country to look for any
    changing rate in cases of schizophrenia.
    Click here for more

    The work had been set up to see if earlier forecasts from other
    experts had been borne out, that the mental disorder would soar
    through the growing popularity of cannabis.

    Published in the Schizophrenia Research journal, a paper on the study
    said: “A recent review concluded that cannabis use increases the risk
    of psychotic outcomes.

    “Furthermore an accepted model of the association between cannabis and
    schizophrenia indicated its incidence would increase from 1990
    onwards.

    “We examined trends in the annual psychosis incidence and prevalence
    as measured by diagnosed cases from 1996 to 2005 and found it to be
    either stable or declining.

    “The casual models linking cannabis with schizophrenia and other
    psychoses are therefore not supported by our study.”

    The research was conducted by Drs Martin Frisher and Orsolina Martino,
    from the department of medicines management at Keele University;
    psychiatrist Professor Ilana Crome, from the Harplands academic unit,
    who specialises in addiction; and diseases expert Professor Peter
    Croft, pictured below, from the university’s primary care research
    centre.

    Its findings come shortly after the Government reclassified cannabis
    from Class C to Class B, which invokes heavier penalties.

    Yet Dr Frisher revealed last night that the study had been partly
    commissioned by the Government’s advisory committee on the misuse of
    drugs.

    He said: “We concentrated on looking into the incidence of
    schizophrenia during those years and not specifically at cannabis use.

    “It was relatively low-key research so I don’t believe it will
    re-ignite the debate on whether the drug should be legalised.”

    Hartshill-based Dilys Wood, national co-ordinator of the Legalise
    Cannabis Alliance, said that so far the report had been published in
    medical journals and would have a far-reaching reaction if it surfaced
    more widely.

    She added: “I believe that if it had found a causal link between
    cannabis and schizophrenia it would have been all over the press.

    “The public needs to know the truth about drugs; not more
    Government-led propaganda.”

    And Alliance press officer Don Barnard said: “It is hard to believe
    the then Home Secretary Jacqui Smith did not know of this very
    important research when deciding to upgrade cannabis to Class B.”

    The team said a number of alternative explanations for the stabilising
    of schizophrenia had been considered and while they could not be
    wholly discounted, they did not appear to be plausible.
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  55. Anonymous on

    He’s pretty laughable as he contradicts and discredits himself regularly… but the more he posts, the sadder I feel for him. He’s obviously trying sooo hard.

    I agree, however, that he shouldnt be fed. Wouldnt want to give him the impression that its even possible we could actually care what he has to say.

  56. Anonymous on

    I’ve seen many previous comments by TT, and as another person pointed out, they are very much of a negative, trolling nature. I don’t know if this is deliberate, or simply an expression of TT’s most likely lonely existence and his arrogance at his supposed intelligence. TT, you are not good at semantic games and low-key dissembling, so give it up–or not, doesn’t matter because you’re “communication” skills are amateurish. People, just let the troll yammer and growl from under its bridge, don’t feed it.

  57. Anonymous on

    Tokin Terry’s misery is getting really desperate for company.

  58. Tokin' Terry on

    holy crap Strongbad !

    all you farty old paranoid snapping turtle stoners
    are suddenly awake, displaying your vintage fear tumours..

    whew- J Edgar Hoover has been dead for >>decades there dude
    etc etc according to the FBI- so they tell you all their secret covert plans ??

    well Jodie- this looks like a job for some exotic strain of pot
    to mask their symptoms till the rest of us can get away .

    on with FBI operation ASSHOLE
    AKA ( American * Secret * Systems * Humoring * Old * Lame * Eunuchs )

  59. Tokin' Terry on

    //I think Terry needs to take his meds.//

    you are completely mistaken,
    I am not nor have not even been on meds
    but at least you are thinking
    so it’s a start
    its not so bad once you get going
    keep up the good work

    thank you,
    now please go away

  60. Tokin' Terry on

    // refering to ppl as lazy stoners,crazy, stupid etc..
    //

    , no you use these words i never did.

    // You’re one of them right? You know, one of them coper-poly harper loving types. //

    sorry, you are mistaken like the other wobbly posters who confuse what they fear and what they see

    // trying to poison the well with your right wing sewer sepage. I bet your sitting on big stephen’s lap right now typing more clever comments to wound those dumb potheads with ,as he feeds u peanuts every time u come up with a gem. whell gotta be going, u have fun there Terry keeping the PM’s “cabinet” knob well polished.//

    maybe keep your Daddy dink of doom fantasies to yourself..and your political projections and your cop infiltrator nightmares,, we both know you are making it all up, come on stay on point and away from the michael moore CDs

    meanwhile back to pot and quirky amateur medical recomendations by 23 year old webstaff regarding certain connections between cannabis and schizophrenia .. You will note from Mrs Emerys’ post title-( the one you joyless old bent stoners are bubbling on, but off topic )

    ” SCHIZOPHRENIA AND YOUNG PEOPLE,,,DOES CANNABIS MAKE IT WORSE? ”

    Mrs Emerys choice of words suggest even she is not sure if weed does or it doesn’t have an effect. And here she is, answering with the same brittle fixed response she gives no matter what the question she is asked actually is about

    We found that a little weird and said so.

    lighten up you old stoner farts-
    don;t you have a Save Mark Emery rally to get ready for ?

  61. kingAmongKings on

    COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal, projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States. The FBI used covert operations from its inception, however formal COINTELPRO operations took place between 1956 and 1971.[2] The FBI’s motivation at the time was “protecting national security, preventing violence, and maintaining the existing social and political order.”

    According to FBI records, 85% of COINTELPRO resources were expended on infiltrating, disrupting, marginalizing, and/or subverting groups suspected of being subversive,[3] such as communist and socialist organizations; the women’s rights movement; people suspected of building a “coalition of militant black nationalist groups” ranging from the Nation of Islam, The Black Panther Party and Republic of New Afrika to “those in the non-violent civil rights movement” such as Martin Luther King, Jr. and others associated with the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, the Congress of Racial Equality, and other civil rights groups; a broad range of organizations labelled “New Left”, including Students for a Democratic Society, the National Lawyers Guild, the Weathermen, almost all groups protesting the Vietnam War, and even individual student demonstrators with no group affiliation; and nationalist groups such as those “seeking independence for Puerto Rico.” The other 15% of COINTELPRO resources were expended to marginalize and subvert “white hate groups,” including the Ku Klux Klan and National States’ Rights Party. [4]

    The directives governing COINTELPRO were issued by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, who ordered FBI agents to “expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize” the activities of these movements and their leaders.[5][6]

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

  62. Anonymous on

    I think Terry needs to take his meds.

  63. Anonymous on

    Hey Terry
    do u smoke pot? If so you have a strange attitude towards it. As most ppl who read the comments probably have noticed all your remarks have a negative sour tone to them,refering to ppl as lazy stoners,crazy, stupid etc.. .Your always trying to put down the staff in your backwoods run around the mollberry bush way of talking. Terry give it up.ur not fooling anyone. You’re one of them right? You know, one of them coper-poly harper loving types. Thinking hes tricking everyone buy his handle tokin’terry, that’s just plain silly. Trying to poison the well with your right wing sewer sepage. I bet your sitting on big stephen’s lap right now typing more clever comments to wound those dumb potheads with ,as he feeds u peanuts every time u come up with a gem. whell gotta be going, u have fun there Terry keeping the PM’s “cabinet” knob well polished.

  64. Anonymous on

    Poor little Terry is upset again. Whats wrong Terry? Why do you want to share your pain?

  65. Anonymous on

    Tokin Terry’s misery is just looking for some more company…..again

  66. Tokin" Terry on

    // Wow Terry, you need to take a “chill pill.” ANY doctor would agree with me there.//

    oh no email spam for online pharmacies..!! thios one comes with a doctors’ recomendation..

    // If you’re so sure Jodie is a crazy lady, why should she not comment on a crazy young man?//

    You are the only one using the term CRAZY- I wouldn’t blame Mrs Emery if she banned you, This” Anoymous ‘ mperson is a very active poster on these forums, he’s in all of them .

    // And I hate the way you emphasize “sane,” sanity is a subconscious consensus which changes faster than either of us possibly could think.//

    speak for yourself there guy, sane is not a tough concept to deal with, maybe it is for you.. I would upgrade that to IT sure looks like SANE is a real reach for you. Please remove me from your special offer list, thank you

    oh I hear the med cart rolling this way BYE

  67. Tokin' Terry on

    ?? You Said “Hope the lady’s son gets away from ALL DRUGS and gets better soon”.Does that include the medicine prescribed by the family’s doctor.//

    yes that would be all drugs, all of them, yes all of them
    i hope that clears things up for you

    ?? You also referred to Mrs Emery’s doctor as her straight doctor inferring that a doctor that prescribes marijuana for their patients as crooked.//

    straight means NOT A STONER, even you knew that. The opposite of crooked would be legitimate.

    // We question the basic wisdom of your psychiatric suggestions”,Who exactly are you speaking on behalf of.//

    Me and my friends, WE is a plural of people. more than one,

    Is English your first language ?
    Are you 12 or maybe like 4 ?

  68. Tokin' Terry on

    There are many people with mental health issues that go to Compassion Clubs.//

    you ran an unregistered compassion club. you would know
    I thought nobody had problems with cannabis.. are you a prohibitionist now? get a grip Dave, your fear of white coats is showing

  69. Anonymous on

    Wow Terry, you need to take a “chill pill.” ANY doctor would agree with me there. At least you make your idiot comments with the same name, it would negate my faith in humanity to believe more than one person here always goes on like you do, so thanks for at least admitting it’s you again.

    If you’re so sure Jodie is a crazy lady, why should she not comment on a crazy young man? If Jodie was one of those rare people who average doctors wouldn’t put on medication(s) she would actually be less qualified to comment on the effects of Cannabis.
    And I hate the way you emphasize “sane,” sanity is a subconscious consensus which changes faster than either of us possibly could think. What you are suggesting is that she should actually reject it when she is actually sharing sanity!

  70. Anonymous on

    How is making it legal going to keep kids from doing it? They’ll still do it, or they will turn to other drugs which are actually really dangerous. There are chemicals now more potent and dangerous than any of the stuff around in the 60s. These research chemicals are mostly legal. Nobody knows what the risks are. That is what you should be worried about. Little pills and powders you can easily hide and get you super high. Only old farts think cannabis is dangerous anymore, there is stuff now easily available that is super potent and really incredibly dangerous available with ease.

  71. Anonymous on

    That has to be the most ignorant response I have ever read.
    Jodie provided links “to disprove the assertion that cannabis use worsens schizophrenia”
    Mrs Emery also said “There is nothing better a person can do than independent research to inform themselves.”
    You Said “Hope the lady’s son gets away from ALL DRUGS and gets better soon”.Does that include the medicine prescribed by the family’s doctor.
    You also referred to Mrs Emery’s doctor as her straight doctor inferring that a doctor that prescribes marijuana for their patients as crooked.
    I don’t know if you are a shill or a troll but I do know you are really something else.
    And when you say “We question the basic wisdom of your psychiatric suggestions”,Who exactly are you speaking on behalf of.

  72. David Malmo-Levine on

    “Maybe next time think before you hit the send button…”

    The same could be said for you.

    There are many people with mental health issues that go to Compassion Clubs. How hard would it have been to call one of them up and ask them if any of their clients have had problems with cannabis?

    If you do bother to call them up, they might tell you what they told me – that having STRAIN SELECTION helps them deal with their mental health issues … some are looking for a stimulating strain and some are looking for a heavy relaxant. Having a choice of strains will occur on a regular basis once activists like Jodie help to relegalize cannabis so it can be more fully researched and consistently grown strains can be found on a regular basis. Strain selection is seldom factored into the “scientific” studies.

    If you don’t like listening to Compassion Clubs and prefer people in lab-coats telling you what to believe, there are some of them who disagree with the cannabis-schizophrenia myth too:

    CONCLUSION: We found few appreciable differences in symptomatology between schizophrenic patients who were or were not cannabis users. There were no differences in the proportion of people with a positive family history of schizophrenia between cannabis users and non-users. This argues against a distinct schizophrenia-like psychosis caused by cannabis.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=17462864&dopt=Abstract

    http://www.whyprohibition.ca/blogs/jacob-hunter/schizophrenia-link-cannabis-denied

  73. Tokin' Terry on

    In all respect Mrs Emery- didn’t you cut down on smoking pot because it interfered with the psychiatric medicines your straight doctor has you on? \\ and please, where do you get off telllinbg a Mother with a mentally ill son who uses an illegle drug that qualified researchers are not as right as you whom we all respect as a magazine editor traveling companion to the Prince of Pot and on/ off political candidate for the Green party?

    Sure have an opinion, have several but we question the basic wisdom of your psychiatric suggestions to someone who you met on facebook .. That lady was desperate and you gave her the standard Pot party office policy , Maybe next time think before you hit the send button

    being calm about a personal opinion is not nearly as important as having some life experience, All respect when i say at 23 you are not exactly what anyone sane would call ” experienced ” . maybe bright and kind but you can;t squeeze in much experience in that short of time- especially partying and touring around.pot festivals and courtrooms .

    But congratulations for being sweet and supportive to someone in need. it takes guts to share random psychiatric opinions on the internet. Hope the ladys sons gets away from ALL DRUGS and gets better soon.