Harper Appoints Evangelical Pastor to ‘Study’ Marijuana and Schizophrenia

Chris Summerville is the is the interim CEO of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada and an evangelical pastor.Chris Summerville is the is the interim CEO of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada and an evangelical pastor.The new Canadian Mental Health Commission is “a wonderful opportunity” for Christians to be involved in dealing with one of the most pressing issues in our society, according to one of its members.

Chris Summerville is one of 11 non-government members of the new Commission’s board of directors. Besides struggling with mental health issues himself, he is the interim CEO of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada, executive director of the Manitoba Schizophrenia Society, and a certified Psychosocial Rehabilitation Practitioner. He is also a committed Christian and an ordained pastor with the Associated Gospel Churches of Canada.

Summerville said he hopes to bring a holistic approach to the issue that addresses body, mind, soul and spirit.

According to the Associated Gospel Church website, history section: “The AGC traces its beginnings to the early 1890s when a group of independent evangelical churches became known as the Christian Workers’ Church of Canada”

UPDATE: The Canadian Schizophrenia Society Board of Directors contain no apparent Medical Doctors or PhD’s, and the first name of the list appears to be a police officer from Toronto.

UPDATE 2: Pam Forsythe is a practising Psychiatrist

For more info, check out the announcement yesterday:

Cannibis smokers have a seven-fold schizophrenia risk

Harper government devotes funds to studying the link between marijuana use and mental illness
THE CANADIAN PRESS

WINNIPEG – The Harper government is putting up $550,000 to gather research on marijuana use and mental illness.

The Schizophrenia Society of Canada will use the money to further research the links between cannabis and early psychosis as well as develop promotional materials warning youth about the dangers of smoking pot.

The money is part of Ottawa’s $30 million national anti-drug strategy announced in 2007.

Chris Summerville, CEO of the Schizophrenia Society, said the public doesn’t realize that cannabis users have a seven-fold increase in risk of developing schizophrenia.

He pointed to recent research out of Victoria, B.C., linking pot smoking and mental illness.

As part of the society’s research, some 30 youths who have experienced psychosis will be trained to gather information about the reasons their peers use cannabis.

The results will be used to develop educational materials aimed at decreasing the use of illicit drugs among young people.

Winnipeg Conservative MP Joy Smith said Tuesday that while the public regards marijuana as a soft drug, there may be very serious consequences for young pot smokers who have a predisposition to mental illness.

“Science has shown that cannabis may actually trigger the onset of psychosis and may also intensify the symptoms for those who already have a psychotic illness,” Smith said in announcing the grant.

“It has been suggested that up to 80 per cent of youth who have had a psychotic episode were using cannabis. And that’s pretty shocking,” said Smith, who was filling in for Health Minister Leona Aglukkaq at news conference.

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  2. Joe Neighbor on

    Tokin Terry and Jacob (not Jason) :-) ,

    I am a believer in Christ. I grew up with a void in my spirit that pot didn’t fill. Oh but I loved my smoke-my whole family does…cultivating connoisseurs with college degrees, the whole lot of us (except Dad-a self-educated genius). I grew up in a ‘one love/to each his own’ family, no Judeo-Christian influence in home, per se. Though, our culture provided plenty of exposure– I confess I’m an American, but I interact with people much more like my friendly Canadian neighbors :) Do you know how I landed into this discussion? I typed in “Christians who support marijuana.” Here are my initial reactions: I’m not sure where you stand in your faith Tokin’ Terry, but I’m not feeling the love in your posts Christ would have us convey, my brother. “A gentle answer turns away wrath,” let your speech be seasoned with grace, that it might impart grace to the hearer.” I did admire your humble apology to Jacob in your 2nd reply. Pot was an ‘idol’ of mine I placed before God; I held so tightly to it that I wouldn’t listen to any criticism of it. Before trusting in Christ, I pursued “truth” in many religions with genuine inquiry and an open mind. What I finally recognized in my own heart was that I was unwilling to put my sweet smoke through the same objective analysis. I was AFRAID to challenge its role in my life because I was not willing to give it up. So I did. Ten years later, a husband and father, I have decided to pursue a real attempt at genuine, objective inquiry. Can marijuana play a useful role in my life again and do the pros outweigh the cons? I’m discouraged, guys. The first forum I found got heated and hateful (at times) in a very short time. We all have an agenda…that’s human. However, learning about marijuana, advocating for or against it, analyzing its risks and benefits, seeking objective evidence cannot happen when we allow our personal agendas to create so much division and blinding emotion. I know this post was originally about a controlled research campaign and who was most fit to oversee it, but I’m glad I stumbled into it. I think we’re all here (in this forum) because, in some way, we care about pot. Let’s keep the main thing the main thing and work together on this. Our emotions can be a great litmus to show us when our desires and fears might be blurring our vision to discover truth. Well, I sure hope somebody is still interested in this aging discussion forum :)
    Grace and Peace, Joe

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  4. Derek on

    (sorry for the late reply on this comment as i am new to the page here) anyone reading this who has done psilocybin (magic mushrooms) multiple times will tell you that no trip is ever the same. group studies have been done for the means to see if psilocybin would be of use for patients suffering from depression or mental illness with good results. this is not to say that everyone would benifit from the use of the drug.

    on to marijuana. it is a halluconagenic like psilocybin on a much smaller scale. not everyone is going to handle the drug in the same way. alcohol is a drug, and not everyone can handle it. clinical depression is a major drawback for many users of alcohol. shall we prohibit alcohol? the states tried and it didnt work, and the prohabition of marijuana isnt working either.

    i would like to touch on pollution being a cause of much of todays mental illness. you cant get away from the pollution. the bleach that is used in pulp mills to make you white paper white goes into streams nearby. how about the pestacides from farmers fields that run off into streams and rivers, and seepage into the ground water. what about irradiation of the fruits and vegetables that you consume? i have had apples in my fridge for two months, and they look and feel like i just bought them. how could this be? treatment of radiation waste.

    my moms boyfriend suffers from schizophrenia, and for him marijuana helps with his delusional episodes. i went through a bitter divorce/custody battle and was prescribed both anti depressants and anti psychotics. i gave them a shot, but didnt like how they made my mind work… or didnt. i prescribed myself marijuana, and talked to my doctor about it. he asked if it was working. i told him it was no better than the pills i was taking except for the fact that i could still think. he told me if its working to stick with it. not all anti depressants work for people. and not all ritalin works on children who misbehave. it depends on the user and their mental capacity. noones brain works the same as anyone elses.

    just think after this of causes of mental illness and the fact that because its not good for one person, that it isnt good for the next. it should be left up to the individual to decide if marijuana is of benifit to them, just as we let them decide if prescriptions and alcohol are of a benifit to them.

    and as for the pastor doing research on children… if made legal, it wouldnt be readily available to children. cigarettes and alcohol arent, why would pot be? the government targets our children as they know parents protect them. if they show us that marijuana is hurting our children, we will jump on the wagon for keeping it illegal. then we can continue seeing our children picking it up on the street down from their school. trust me on this, as when i was 15 i was one of the bastards that pushed joints on the kids at school and the mall.

    one last thing. the gateway drug is of validity only for the fact that i have to go out and buy my pot on the street. my last two dealers have pushed both coke and X on me. if i could go to 711 for a pack of joints, i dont think the guy at the till would be trying to push coke on me. hope this puts in perspective why kids end up doing harder drugs when they are looking to score a joint.

  5. 100% Cannibis on

    The treason inflicted on Canadians by our so-called Government is sickening.
    Harper uses the Church of God to impose Hideous Prohibition against Cannabis and Canadians
    I find this to be Treason against your God and MY HOME AND NATIVE LAND.
    It’s Time for Change Harper
    We are not stupid!
    Your Christen God Gave People Cannabis as a Gift.
    Not A Dictators Tool to use against Free Canadians.
    The USA has over 25 million Cannabis users!
    Wake up Harper
    Canada has more Cannabis users per Population than USA!
    99% of My Canadian Native Friends Smoke Cannabis.
    Put that in your Treasonous Dictator Pipe and smoke it.

    And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more. — Ezekiel 34:29

    “The Lord said unto me, ‘I will take my rest and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs.’ ” — Isaiah 18:4-5

    “Lord, when did we see thee sick or in prison and came unto thee?” And the King will answer and say unto them, “Verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethern, ye have done it unto me.” — Matthew 25:39-40

    What is the Word of God on the Cannabis plant?

    The hemp plant (scientific name: cannabis, slang: marijuana) is one of the many useful herbs “yielding seed after its kind” created and blessed by God on the third day of creation, “and God saw that it was good.” (Genesis 1:12) He gave hemp for people to use with our free will.

    God said, “Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth.…To you it will be for meat.” … And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:29-31) The Bible predicts some herb’s prohibition. “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall … speak lies in hypocrisy … commanding to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:1-3)

    The Bible speaks of a special plant. “I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.” (Ezekiel 34:29) A healing plant. On either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare 12 manner of fruits, and yielding her fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Revelations 22:1-2) A gift from God.

    How was cannabis used in Biblical times and lands?

    Cannabis was used 12 ways: clothing, paper, cord, sails, fishnet, oil, sealant, incense, food, and in ceremony, relaxation and medicine. For so the Lord said unto me, “I will take my rest and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs. For afore harvest, when the bud is perfect and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks and take away and cut down the branches.” (Isaiah 18:4-5)

    Does the Bible discuss drugs?

    Alcohol is the only drug openly discussed in the Bible, so it must serve as our reference. Wine is drunk during religious occasions such as Passover &emdash; the Last Supper of Jesus and His disciples. It remains a sacrament in modern church services.

    Jesus began his public life by miraculously turning water into wine at the Wedding at Cana (John 2:1-10) when the reception ran out. The Bible distinguishes between use and misuse. It says, Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts. (Proverbs 31:6-7) but Woe unto them that … follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them! (Isaiah 5:10)

    Yet the simple joys of drinking were also sung. He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; And wine that maketh glad the heart of man and oil to make his face to shineth. (Psalm 104:14-15)

    Did Jesus speak about choice?

    He said not to criticize other people for their habits. “Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; that which cometh out of the mouth defileth a man.” (Mat. 15:11) The apostle Paul wrote, I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. … For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. (Paul: Romans 14:14,17)

    Did He speak of government?

    Jesus said to keep church and state apart. “Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar’s and unto God the things which be God’s.” (Luke 20:25) As we have seen, it was God, not government, who gave man the herbs to use. And it was government that put Jesus to death.

    Property forfeiture laws, recession?

    He warned us about seizure and forfeiture laws. “Beware of the scribes which …devour widows’ houses…. The same shall receive greater damnation.” (Luke 20:46-47) Jesus, too, was a victim. The soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took His garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part. (John. 19:33)

    What about the Drug War?

    Blessed are the peacemakers. (Matthew 5:9)

    It was God who created cannabis hemp and told mankind to use “every green herb” on Earth. The Bible speaks of mercy, healing and a persecution of God’s children. They persecute me wrongfully; help thou me. (Psalms 119:86) Prisons and drug wars do not save souls. The Lord… hath sent me to bind up the broken hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and the opening of the prison to them that are bound. (Isaiah 61:1)

    What should the ministry do?

    Teach God’s truth. Warn your congregation that the war on marijuana is unchristian and must be ended. My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me … for I desired mercy and not sacrifice. (Hosea 4:6, 6:6)

    Remember: Every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused if it be received with thanksgiving…. If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:4-6)

    Summary analysis of the foregoing discussion:

    What does the Bible say about marijuana? The Bible says that God created hemp for people to use “as meat,” (ie, to consume), that its seed oil is to be used as an ointment, and that cannabis is “to be received with thanks-giving of them which believe and know the truth.” Paul also warned that some people would “speak lies in hypocrisy” and prohibit us from using it.

    It also says that we “shall not bear false witness” about people who use cannabis, nor judge them because that judgement is reserved to the Lord. The Lord hates those who speak lies and sow discord among brethern. For those people harrassed and imprisoned for using cannabis rightfuly, Jesus offers these words of comfort, “Blessed are those persecuted for righteousness’s sake: For theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.”

    What would Jesus do regarding medical marijuana?

    Despite common knowledge and widespread scientific support, the federal government has for nearly 30 years kept cannabis in schedule 1 as a deliberate way to deny patients access to medical marijuana. This includes people suffering from asthma, cancer, migraine headache, chronic pain, spasticity, glaucoma, arthritis, and provides relief for many other conditions. As a result, people at various locations across the USA have had to risk and suffer years in prison for providing medical marijuana to patients as an act of compassion and personal conscience. What would Jesus do? He chose to break the law in order to heal the sick.

    “At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn, and his disciples were hungered, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat. 2) But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day 3) But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was hungered, and they that were with him? … 10) And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered, And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him. 11) And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it and lift it out? 12) How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days. 13) Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other. 14) Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him. 15) But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence, and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all; 16) And charged them that they should not make him known.” (Matthew 12: 1-2, 10-16) (also see Mark 3, Luke 13, John 9)

    Should people give blind obedience to government?

    Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, 2) Why do thy disciple transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.” 3) But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? … 7) Ye hypocrites! … 12) Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? 13) But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. 14) Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind, And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. (Matthew 15:1-3, 7, 12-14)

    Passages from the King James Bible that are relevant
    to the legal and moral status of Cannabis sativa, L.

    And the earth brought forth grass and herb yielding seed after its kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. (Genesis 1:12)

    God said, “Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.” And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. (Gen. 1:29-31)

    (No prohibition of cannabis or any other drug is made in the Ten Commandments: See Ex. 20:1-17)

    (Cannabis is mentioned in Ex. 30:23 but King James mistranslated it as ‘sweet calamus’) :
    Moreover, the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, 23 Take thou also unto thee principal spices, of pure myrrh five hundred shekels, and of sweet cinnamon half so much, even 250 shekels, and of qaneh-bosm [cannabis] 250 shekels, 24 And of cassia 500 shekels, after the shekel of the sanctuary, and of oil olive an hin: 25 And thou shalt make it an oil of holy anointment, an ointment compound after the art of the apothecary: it shall be an holy anointing oil. 26 And thous shalt anoint the tabernacle of the congregation therewith, and the ark of the testimony, 27 And the table and all his vessels, and the candlestick ahd his vessels, and the altar of incense, 28 And the altar of burnt offerings with all his vessels, and the laver and his foot. 29 And thou shalt sanctify them, that they may be most holy: whatsoever toucheth them shall be holy. (Exodus 30:22-29)

    * As one shekel equals approximately 16.37 grams, this means that the THC from over 9 pounds of flowering cannabis tops were extracted into a hind, about 6.5 litres of oil. The entheogenic effects of such a solution — even when applied topically -would undoubtedly have been intense.

    He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; And wine that maketh glad the heart of man and oil to make his face to shineth. (Psalm 104:14-15)

    The Lord said unto me, “I will take my rest and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest. For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks and take away and cut down the branches. (Is. 18:4-5)

    And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more. (Ezekiel 34:29)

    (Jesus:) “Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.” (Matt. 15:11)

    One believeth that he may eat all things. Another…eateth herbs. … Let us not, therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumbling block or an occasion to fall in his brother’s way. I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. (Epistle of St. Paul: Romans 14: 2,3,13,14,17)

    Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereupon thou hast attained. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:1-6)

    And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielding her fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Rev. 22:1-2)

    Other relevant quotes:

    Intoxication:

    Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise. (Prov. 20:1)

    Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish and wine unto those of heavy hearts. Let him drink and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more. (Prov. 31:6-7)

    “Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them! (Isaiah 5:10)

    (Jesus’ first miracle was turning water into wine at the wedding at Cana: See John 1-10. He also served wine at the Last Supper.)

    Prohibition:

    (Jesus:) He said unto them, “Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar’s and unto God the things which be God’s.” (Luke 20:25)

    “Then came Peter to him and said, “Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, “I say not unto thee until seven times: But until seventy times seven.” (Matt. 18:21-22)

    (Jesus:) “If a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.” (Mark 3:24)

    (Jesus:) He saith unto them, “Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him…. That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.” (Mark 7:18-20)

    Forfeiture:

    As troops of robbers wait for a man, so the company of priests commit murder in the way by consent. (Hos. 6:9)

    (Jesus:) “Beware the scribes which desire to walk in long robes and … the highest seats in the synagogues and the chief rooms at feasts; Which devour widows’ houses, and for a show make long prayers: They shall receive greater damnation.” (Luke 20:46-47)

    Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took His garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part. (John 19:23)

    Persecution:

    Thy commandments are faithful: They persecute me wrongfully; help thou me. (Ps. 119:86)

    (Jesus:) “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God. Blessed are those persecuted for righteousness’ sake: For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:9-10)

    (Jesus:) “The King shall answer and say unto them, ‘Verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethern, ye have done it unto me.” (Matt. 25:40)

    Tolerance:

    These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue and hands that shed innocent blood; An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief; A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethern.” (Prov. 6:16-19)

    (Jesus:) “But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek, offer also the other, and him that taketh away thy cloak, forbid not to take thy coat also.” (Luke 6:27-29)

    Judgement & Punishment:

    The spirit of the Lord God is upon me, because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the broken hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and the opening of the prison to them that are bound.” (Is. 61:1)

    My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me…for I desired mercy and not sacrifice. (Hosea 4:6, 6:6)

    (Jesus:) “Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgement ye judge, ye shall be judged: And with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?” (Matt. 7:1-4)

    (Jesus:) He beheld them and said, “What is this then that is written, ‘The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner’?” (Luke 20:17)

    Truth:

    A wise man will hear, and will increase learning: and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels. (Proverbs 1:5)

    If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked. (Prov. 29:12)

    Get Your wicked Corp Rats Off our Backs!!

    My self A Free White Canadian Native

    Who knows your God is Your Delusion

  6. Anonymous on

    I have known people with schizophrenic problems real down an out kind of people. When I would smoke weed with them they were happy and not parinoid at all. The only time either of the two I knew realy well would only get in trouble is when alcohol was involved. And they were diagnosed with this problem long before they tried pot. I grew up on ridalin in the 60’s and 70’s cut off of it when I went to High school went for a couple of years feeling realy shitty. One day and older freind of mine said lets smoke a joint I had a bag of chips we shared when done I started watching my friend eat the chips and laughed so hard and felt sooo GOOD that was 31 years ago. Pot is by far the best medicine on the planet. It does not cause problems it helps to cure problems. PEACE AN POT

  7. Anonymous on

    are so oblivious to their own actions! Did Harper not just have an election 10 months ago because he could not play by the rules. Sounds Schizoid to me!

  8. Tokin' Terry on

    so, as you tell it a few huffs of weed and a sane normal person becomes double personality- aka schizophrenic, and no turning back. And therefore, if regular stoners use pot they are just hard core schizophrenics..

    uh,, these statements of yours are _seriously _disturbing because it strongly links pot use and occassional schizophrenic behavior in 2 different true settings both political – and this seems to support the Harper Govt theory of a strong link between cannabis and mental illness..

    . so unless you are lying but somehow I think you are telling the truth, pro pot politics is in serious trouble, and this upcoming study may prevail over accepted stoner belief system forever already weakened by an assortment of anti-religious stoner bigots on this thread.

    Please rethink your statement and if you are lying, just say so. because you are basically, providing strong evidence for the prohibitionists.

  9. Tokin' Terry on

    You were indoctrinated with religious teachings from birth correct? Your parents and pastor “planted” this stuff in your head.//

    wrong pal, I received zero religious instruction at home and never went to church, maybe change the batteries in your intuitive reality machine= the red signal light is blinking

    // Marc Emery a “repeat felon”. LOL! Yeah right! He is a real “threat” to society. LOL! Gimme a break! //

    ha ha here’s your break- he is a repeat felon, and he says so himself, How many times has he been raided\, busted and sent to jail ? ha ha LOTS OF TIMES – this adds up in his police record ha ha his last scrape was an International crime ha ha what about that ? he knows. millions of others know- why don’t you know? /and you dismiss all this because crabby old asshole you are doesn’t feel like believing beyond your one inch deep perception zone. . Not much different than a million other intoxicated geniuses who talk shit and then fade away behind their lighters

    Righteous Buds will never be legal till repeat felons smarten the fuck up up and cranky old assholes like you detox- and fly right, Oh, and when you get a spare moment. fuck off, thank you

  10. Tony_42 on

    You were indoctrinated with religious teachings from birth correct? Your parents and pastor “planted” this stuff in your head.

    Marc Emery a “repeat felon”. LOL! Yeah right! He is a real “threat” to society. LOL! Gimme a break!

  11. Anonymous on

    The others make points for the against team?

  12. Anonymous on

    People have been smoking weed for far to long without any studies. If Harper really thinks this is how he is going to make his political legacy, (other then unable to win a majority) it only proves how delusional the man is. No biased studies to date have made one iota of difference to. Having some holy rolling schizo tell me I am crazy will not contribute to neo-right cleaning up the streets of the heathen marijuana so the Afghani heroin can hook more addicts, will not work either!

  13. Anonymous on

    During my days at the U. of Alberta I had the opportunity in 1978 to smoke a joint with Rod Love (later to become )- Alberta Premier Ralph Klein’s chief of Staff for 12 years. As I remember it was the 1st time I had smoked Skunk as it was a new strain out of BC. Rod rolls a double-double Zig-Zag so it’s like a Big Bambu (a la Cheech & Chong). Rod Love boasted about his biker connections in Forest Lawn (Calgary) which he used to obtain his weed. Schizophrenia decribes a multiple personality type so that qualifies as you have to be of 2 minds to tell the RCMP to bust those dopers while retiring to your study to smoke a fatty each evening. Sounds like he should get together with Nancy Reagan who puffs at 2pm each day (see -Memoirs of a Secret Service Agent in the Reagan White House – reviewed in the Economist Book Section). Does the word hypocrite conjure the dual personality required for the diagnosis of clinical schizophrenia? Rod still smokes today according to MP Brent Rathgerber’s reaction when asked in 2004 by yours truly!!

  14. Tokin' Terry on

    that was the wittiest thing you have ever posted

  15. Jacob Hunter on

    “no wonder nobody with half a brarn takes most pot activism seriously”

    Tokin’ Terry will soon be conducting research for the Harper government.

  16. James Shaffer on

    I’ve been partaking since I was 13. . . turning 45 in a few weeks. . .

    I’m not schizo, nor psychotic. . . I don’t hear voices in my head (other than my own, which is called “Thinking” – something these Prohibitionists should try sometime).

    I have, however, noticed that I have a longer fuse when I am able to partake. . . I don’t blow up and knock the dogslobber out of idiots who so desperately need it when I am able to partake. . .

    I’m researching 3 inventions, 2 of which I had the ideas for when I was baked. . . 1 of which could (maybe) go a long way towards energy independence. . .

    My IQ is in the 135-143 range, and anything I have ever put my mind to, I have learned – and am among the best at doing any of these things. . .
    I taught myself much about Thermo- Hydro- and Aerodynamics in Jr High; in HS I majored in Physics, minored in English, and have the equivalent education of a 2 year degree in Psychology and Philosophy – learned during the same time I was studying Physics. . .

    So. . . anything negative you hear from “them” that says Cannabis is harmful to the mind and/or psyche. . . I have to say, from my own experience and the observation of the experiences of others, that it is all a bunch of hogwash and fearmongering. . .

    Give it up. . . We, the Educated, know the difference.

  17. Anonymous on

    Can’t even comment so livid, but I’ll try. What his role comes down to is as a project manager, but why tout the fact that he is a pastor, seems more like politics than anything else.

    My mother is dying of lung cancer to which cannabis might possibly have some relief, I’d like to see one Canadian dollar put towards researching that, let alone $550,000. But we are too busy trying to find a demon in a plant.

    It makes one feel like a slave to the suits that spend our taxes.

    grrrrrrr. how did the states become so progressive and we became so suppressive.

  18. Ozlanthos on

    One of these days I would love to see these studies and organizations being run by actual SCIENTISTS (or at least doctors!)! There is more an more evidence that the relationship between humans and cannabis is mutually beneficial and long lived. I am sick and tired of politicians trying to convince people that use of marijuana is “bad”. We KNOW BETTER!!! It has been shown to reduce the chances (and even fight) several forms of cancer. It has been demonstrated to be an excellent anti-depressant and non-toxic pain reliever.

    Almost all alternatives to marijuana for these uses have been shown to induce side-effects that are often worse than the symptoms they are being taken to relieve. It leads me to believe that the only reasons marijuana isn’t legal is that 1 you don’t need a huge lab and thousands of hours of testing thus justifying sickningly high prices for meds, and 2 Using it HAS NEVER KILLED ANYONE!

    -Oz

  19. Tokin' Terry on

    Challenge to all athiest stoners : Google me this

    exactly what science has proven that God does or does not exist?? is this your basic jedi daycamp 420 science fiction here ? really, no wonder nobody with half a brarn takes most pot activism seriously- especially when you freak out when somebody dares to take a close look at links between pot and mental/emotional illness… in case your name comes up on the afflicted list.. and some skinny little pastor is gonna call you out

    I hope Marc Emery fixes you idiots before he goes away- his own brotherin London Ontario is a Pastor who staked his family home that provided Marcs bail money after the DEA got him good,,Ask Marc is his brother is qualified to risk all for someone else or do you need a phd to put up bail for a repeat felon ? ?

  20. Worm on

    I thought “god” was the first, did he not prohibit adam & eve from eating the apple. That was only 2 people on the whole earth and even he couldn’t stop them.

    JUST SAY NOW!

  21. Worm on

    How can this guy be credible when it comes to scientific research when science has proven there is no god, he will just ignore the science behind cannabis and inject his own beliefs.

    JUST SAY NOW!

  22. Anonymous on

    Thank you our German brothers and sisters!

  23. JCIS on

    Gov’t should study at the same time of how many people who get drunk have mental illness or how many Star Trek fans have mental illness or how many who work at the Stock Market have mental illness – I’d bet the percentages are way higher than for pot!
    It should be noted that well over 50% of all mental patients smoke cigarettes! – check this fact with your local mental health facility!
    I bet buying lotto tickets (and losing) makes mental illness worse too.

  24. Anonymous on

    The fake, false, phony, crocodile grin on this man’s face (see his photo) says clearly: “You have no right to know what I am really thinking.” And you can tell he believes it.

  25. greg williams on

    correlation between mental illness and religion?
    these folks talk to a thing they have never seen, no proof of such a thing, and give their money to people who promote such a thing ( thing = god)

    i’d say the mental illness has set in for some time now.

    now all you Christians dont walk out on me just yet
    you know whos name i’ll be screaming as i’m clutching my chest
    the one my dad told me to and his told him to and i probably pray as much or more than you do
    believe shit every word i say but belieivin and knowing those are two different things
    and if you’re tryin to change the way a strangers life has to go
    this is where i believe i’ll stick to what i know, which is nothing you know….nothing fer sure

  26. greg williams on

    terry,
    you are right. pot is not spring water and we all know it.
    did you know that you can overdose and die on water, but you cant overdose and die from pot?

    what messes with a young teenage mind? mmmmmm
    could it be forced into rehab until one recites their propaganda? taken from their parents and locked up? put in cages with dangerous people?

    naw, its gotta be pot. geez, wtf was i thinkin?

  27. Sir Les on

    Hay…I’ve taken some schooling in the dark arts of supposed education of the western worlds bullshit.
    I can stand by the truth that half of the stuff they use as fact is theory, and half the theory is bullshit.
    So we find the education system upgrading their standards and truths/facts/theories/history/sciences all the time!
    There is no such thing as a qualified Scientist.

    So We should employ both a (Religious order) of supposed truths (God said it is Good) and (users) and (None Users)

    As it is there are many people who use marijuana respectfully and productively!
    These people have been outcast from society/democracy for far too long!
    Democracy is for the people…and marijuana smokers /users are people!!!

    If they can accept Gays and Lesbians dancing down the streets every year, and getting wed in churches/houses of GOD?…they surely can accept people smoking some Marijuana.

    Whether it causes mental issues doesn’t seem to be an issue when you put things in that light of debased thinking!

    Any real Christian would tell Harper where to stick that bribe money!

    Now how about a study on how many people have died instilling bent democracies that oppress “free trade” of Marijuana since Rome and Caesar.
    I’m sure you’d be surprized at the number!

    And then another study on how many more will die instilling these bent democracies into the world that doesn’t want it.

    Stress is part of that.

    Now look at the commandments of God, and you will see no reference to marijuana!

    But you will see references to Murder and killing!
    Idolatry, and being kind to our neighbours! = All life!
    And the one commandment Christ added…to love each other as he loved us!
    That includes Marijuana users and any other plant loving freak of nature that comes along!

    We have been Given the gifts by God, and Christ conferms it!
    Now..lets take out the lies…and start making EDENS!

    Maybe that common ground is something everyone will agree on!..and then peace can come to Planet Earth, as humans start fixing things they have Polluted with their bent lifestyles!

    Just an observation of the componets supplied to my eye!

    Moses was protecting the Plants holiness.
    If you want to use it correctly, become a preacher of the truth Like me!….God said it is All Good that he made Good!
    Who am I to argue with God?

    Sir Les

  28. Tokin' Terry on

    Get your head out of your ass. Religion is fiction.//

    ya ? thats kind of preachy , even for an athiest

  29. EvilAthiest on

    Get your head out of your ass. Religion is fiction.

  30. Anonymous on

    The Conservative mentality is to increase incarceration time for smaller quantities of weed? He is trying, in his paranoia to acquire a majority social opinion change on the acceptance of marijuana as a soft drug. Mean while the RCMP report an noticeable increase in heroin on our streets? Afghanistan heroin! Our Federal Politicians all of them voted for bill C-15.

  31. Chris on

    Seriously…what business does a religious leader with no qualifications have running any sort of study. I’ll tell you what will happen to the $500,000 that is being spent on this, it will probably go into the mans “ministry” and then he will continue to spew ideological bullshit and call it a “study”. Or it will be used on pseudo scientific study that doesn’t accomplish anything. Either way its wasted. If, by some miracle, the man doesn’t use the opportunity to spew ideological bullshit and instead uses it legitimately, then I might believe there is a god up there, but somehow I don’t see that happening. While I live in America where this sort of bullshit has been going on for years, its dying down, and I’m sad that Canada is picking up on it and becoming the new America when it comes to the misinformation and lies. I just hope everyone who reads his (likely) bogus study will understand he has no qualifications or business in this matter and that Canada’s conservative party is so full of shit they are ran out of office.

    Honestly, as a science student studying chemistry this sickens me. It would be one thing if it was actual researchers coming up with crappy studies to make grant money, which unfortunately has been going on forever, its infinitely worse for science to give the money to a holy man with no qualifications and say “We think marijuana causes schizophrenia, use this money to make sure we are right.” In fact, it can hardly be called a study at all since the outcome they want is neatly summarized in this report. Anytime anyone does a study and looks for a specific result, the study will show that specific result, because results can be tweaked anyway they want. The only people that will understand that will be people that look at the study and go “what in the fuck was he thinking by doing that?”

  32. Tokin' Terry on

    The rest of us will go ahead and demand credible scientific research from qualified individuals.//

    but you won;t get it.because the party you voted for didn’t win the election.

    Who is credible then in your opinion,, maybe ask your millions of friends in the Americas and Europe to suggest someone better for the job. I can wait.

  33. Anonymous on

    The problem these conservatives have is lack of intelligent knowledge. The only paranoia that comes from pot is the paranoia of getting caught for something everyone knows is so benign. It’s probably the point of arrest where a marijuana user is treated like dirt that triggers schizophrenia. (hint-end prohibition)
    And to think, it’s tragic these narrowminded conservatives nearly got a majority government with less than 23% of the eligible voters (40% didn’t vote). It’s also ironic that probably the majority of the non-voters are probably pot smokers and that in itself may help these conservatives get a majority.

  34. Jacob Hunter on

    No roll, but if you want to present yourself as thoughtful, getting a name wrong twice doesn’t accomplish it.

    Point 2 is corroborated by any class on researcher bias. Point 3 is corroborated by any number of research articles, Colin Mangham’s InSite report is a glaring example displaying “an inability to pass the rigors of peer review and near total incongruity with existing literature.

    Terry, I have already answered your question:

    “I would expect a qualified researcher, someone with a PhD and experience in mental health and drug policy researcher. You know, exactly the kind of individual who the Conservatives ignore in favour of unqualified individuals who share their ideological bent.”

    How is this man unqualified? No Research degrees (PhD or Masters) no experience with academic research. Meanwhile, those with degrees and experience are ignored ala the C15 committee. Seems totally unqualified to me, but I am sure he would get a position at Tokin’ Terry University.

    If you want to get your science from unqualified, evangelical pastors, be my guest, there are about 75 Million Americans, and most Europeans before the enlightenment you can count as company.

    The rest of us will go ahead and demand credible scientific research from qualified individuals.

  35. BC_Budman on

    What percentage of youth were using milk when they had their episodes? Almost 100% I’ll bet!

    I’ll stick with the opinion of medical professionals on this one. One must ask why after care practitioners are giving us so-called “medical” opinions and why should we care?

    The fact is these people would manifest this illness regardless.

    Just my opinion as a volunteer for mental illness after care.

  36. Anonymous on

    Thanks Sir Les you make many valid points.

    But moses prohibited cannabis to the people
    and restricted it to the priests only.

    The basis of his genesis writing and the prohibition of the tree of knowledge is cannabis and entheogenic plant/naturem

    Moses adopted the monotheist dog in Egypt
    and transplanted it to the tribe he took with himself from egypt
    and they rebelled often against his iron rules.

    search for Michael Pollens talk at berkley (it’s in the forums)
    where he speaks of the moses prohibition;

    it’s near the end of his talk.
    you’ll like it i’m sure.

  37. Sir Les on

    My studies with Marijuana use, and its growth have been favorable.
    First I sowed the seeds naturally for the birds.
    And then I sowed the seeds to make inroads into a system built on Money…As a young child, I didn’t meet the social secutirty prereq for working status in the system.
    So my only recourse was to sell Marijuana and do paper routes to exist in the system.
    I then started using Marijuana, against my parents wishes, and the laws that bound them…

    Now the lies have to stop.
    Because I found when using this plant at first was benefical to my sound mind.
    When the legality of it was emposed on me, by the Law, and the police, and then my parents…I was forced to split mty mind into two different entites.
    One being Good…and the other being a rebel knowing that the penitly for having this plant, and selling it, or using it would be detramental to my welbeing uunder the law!

    Paranoia was instilled because of the law, and the effect of the plants natural spiritual peace was lost over time knowing I was doing something that was supposedly wrong.
    To hide this use, lies were told.
    and because lies are told to hide or appease our pears we entertain Satan.

    Dual personalities are caused by the lies!
    Marijuana is Good…it is how and when and why it is used.
    Thus the plant itself does nothing but what God intended it to do!

    it is th ehuman condition that makes error!
    And when they use error to detramentally gain wealth, and oppress other ways of life..so that these bent democracies arise full of all kinds of evils for profits and gains…I have to say in a nutshell…If marijuana relieves my mind from them Evils I see in the world…then why are they trying to prophibite it?

    Ah Moses saw the plant as holy!
    Maybe it does create holy ground when sowed right.

    And that might account for the hatred towards it by the demons/evil?

    Hmmm one could say it is something to ponder!
    And I have!
    So my study finds Marijuana to be a great food source!
    A living entity of a higher order of fractals.
    A living filter of the waters and air!
    A renewable resource/fuel/textiles/ we should be employing in our eco systems!
    A Composting agent for the soils, virus and bacteria we are now fighting for cures for!..and costing a very high price to not find, while they refuse to legalize Marijuana which could be indirectly and directly used as the remidy!
    A connecting agent of the sun, moon, stars, and this world…
    A medical and spiritual vehical to happiness in some cases!
    And a means to gain a value for trade!!!

    That is the best list of truths I can muster up from my studies.

    Now we have a bent world being polluted and defiled by the industrial stupidity for wealth!
    Prosparity and health of the race called humankind is weening..
    And the Earth needs solutions to our bent lifestyles that are polluting the eco systems!

    Whether marijuana is responsible for Mental issues is not a valid study..

    If the plant is grown and used properly ther is no need for the study!

    Where they should direct the study is why do children disobay the laws and education that supposedly informs them of the consequences of using the plant the wrong way…as entertainment = abuse of the plant!

    Thus it is not the plants fault!
    And thus this vital piece of the eco system..might be connected to GOD as being part of the truth about GOD.

    And the demons cannot use it right!

    Should they be put behind bars for smoking a Joint?
    No!

    Should they have this legality issue put on them for trying to make a way of life that is different than the bent democracies and eivls they got set up for them to be defiled in?
    No!..because the stress of that legality and penitly effects the mind when using the drug!

    Again the lies and liar have changed what God has said, and what christ has said…and have profaned Marijuana!
    So that they can say it is just a drug, instead of it being a food…so they can then impose the tax on it!

    Brainwashing the people with lies, creates a body of deviants!

    See Planet Earth for references!

    Does marijuana cause mental illness?
    NO the lies, and stress & paranoia imposed on the users do!

    So with that knowledge put forth to the masses.
    I think People could come up with such better ideas than the ones they are selling people for such a high price!

    if we are to sustain life in these ever increasing costing systems of money and wealth…we need ways to make money!
    And if God said it is all Good…then it is all Good!

    if you have issues with it…don’t buy it!

  38. Tokin' Terry on

    On a roll I see.. your point 2 and 3 are sort of crapping on the unseen government for your own puff up.
    Why wait to see what they come up with? Dude not everything is revolution.. This is an announcement that the deal is on. its a press release/ not a tender for the job- how is the Pastor not credible.. unqualified and/or ideologically tied to __ any govt?? take your time answering this. Maybe you didn;t crap on the Pastors Christianess but you seemed to have crapped on everything else about him. Activism is not a license to be a bitch

    I ask again.. who would you prefer to be these credible researchers? I provided a list of a 420 Dream Team.. any of those suitable to spend taxpayers money who know about street level mental illness ? Maybe they are in a bad sort of way

  39. Anonymous on

    In fact I’d like to add to my last post and clarify my point, which is that while smoking pot didn’t make your friends and the adults you know who are using antidepressants any better, it’s not like the pharmaceuticals would have cured them either. You still have to take something each day or as needed for the rest of your life; one is toxic, one is quite holistic.

    Plus maybe the input your decisions and observations have received are a little skewed too. Persons who used illegal drugs in childhood are also more likely to *admit* they are prescribed a drug. The stigma that is carried by drugs in the drugstore is lost on those who have used underground drugs, but it may come into play and magnify the apparent correlations.

  40. Anonymous on

    They are desperate for some kind of scientific justification for Cannabis prohibition because they know that otherwise it’s just a matter of time until it is struck down on Charter rights basis.

    One of the judges in such a case actually cited increased schizophrenia as a reason why Cannabis is not harmless. In actuality, it might increase the risk by some amount but certainly not the sevenfold figure given in the above article. The question is how bad it is compared to other things. Apparently, quite a few things can increase risk of developing schizophrenia, as mentioned in this quote;

    “Life stressors may trigger schizophrenia in people whose genetics leave them susceptible to the illness. Ending relationships, leaving home, and other life stressors have been linked to schizophrenia onset in some cases.” http://www.psychiatric-disorders.com/articles/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-causes.php

    You have to weight the possible risks of Cannabis use with the known benefits. It’s like with pharmaceuticals, they all have a list of side effects as long as your arm but they are not prohibited. Well, Cannabis has the best benefit/side effects ratio of any pharmaceutically active substance. Until they prohibit every other substance that has any negative side effects, like aspirin or anything else in a drug store, they have no justification for prohibiting Cannabis and they know it. They can’t keep up the charade forever. Eventually, they will have to actually uphold the Charter rights of all Canadians instead of arbitrarily denying them by making bogus arguments in Supreme Court that are easily shot down later but they can just say “the Supreme Court has made their decision, we control everything and we can do whatever we want just because we say so”.

  41. Anonymous on

    Glen you should know better. This whole page is full of people saying that mentally ill persons tend to self-medicate.
    “[These people] were likely using all sorts of substances to quiet the voices in their heads.” And that doesn’t only apply to schizophrenia. Now I know you don’t want to insult the intelligence of your childhood friends, surely at the time they chose to use drugs, they were aware of their own circumstances?
    I just think maybe perhaps your perspective is distorted.

  42. Anonymous on

    agreed….All the better reason to vote Harper out as soon as possible!!!

  43. onegreenday on

    the roots of prohibition are judeo/christian
    with moses being the 1st prohibitionist.

    when he came down from the mountain his tribe was eating goat & cannabis & he flipped out and smashed
    the dog’s commandments’ stone tablets
    (some kinda leader)

    and murdered half of them (why else would they follow
    that wack job)

    the race/ethnic/jazz musician is really secondary.

    prohibition is primarily a religious motivation.

    I guess Harper is following the O’bama lead:

    Obama names evangelical Christian to run National Institutes of Health

    The WAR on cannabis will reach unprecedented
    levels of destruciton & pain (think Emery)
    or worse.

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jul2009/coll-j30.shtml

    2 peas in a pod as they say, that O’bama/Harper.

  44. Sir Les on

    Yes what about a more direct and useful study in not only making this plant useful in a industrious way, so that it is removed from the black market, and then to use it to glorify the kingdom…in terms of cleaner burning fuels, and a better eco systems!

    Eh..555,000.00 is a lot of tax payers loot being wasted….on mental issues, if they don’t stop lying to the people there will always be mental issues!

    Lies create chaos in the mind!

    Sir Les

  45. Sir Les on

    Youth.
    Here is a religious supposed Christian saying he will study the possible ties Marijuana and mental illness have in youth.

    Well wat about the lies that are told by the societies, and parents who believe in the lies…and how they effect the youth’s mental health…that would be a far more reaching study!

    A real Christian would not need to study any plant, he she would just Quote Jesus..”it is all Good when taken with thanksgiving” and of course when used properly.

    Prohibition is wrong!
    Education is the key!
    Stop lying to our youth, and teach them about sowing EDENS into the world with love!

    That might help solve the problems the lies and liars make in the mind…for profits and gains in dead things it seems!

    Sir Les

  46. Jacob Hunter on

    First off, you have gotten my name wrong twice.

    Second, this kind of survey is one of the most open-to-bias types of research. Why would this government ignore research from credible researchers and Universities in favor of this group? It seems pretty suspicious that the CEO is totally unqualified, yet highly ideologically tied to this government.

    Third, this government has a pattern of paying for ideologically motivated pseudo science, and then basing policy upon it. This despite an inability to pass the rigors of peer review and near total incongruity with existing literature.

    Finally, why wait to see what they come up with? Why not instead hire credible researchers, with credible team leaders and a history of publication?

  47. Glen Gunderson on

    I grew up with a lot of very normal cousins (4), and friends (6) here in Drayton Valley, Alberta. One by one as they turned 17 it was like a light switch went off, and either they would just seem to disappear or go missing. Later I would find out they had tried to commit suicide, or they ran away, or their parents had quietly taken them to seek help, for what would later be diagnosed as Bi Polar Disease. It wasn’t later that I put together that the kids that had fallen victim to depression, and schizophrenia we the same friends and cousins I remembered being occasional, to heavy pot smokers. It is very hard to know if people are on anti depressants because it too embarrassing to admit, but as I get older it seems like 10% of the towns adult population is on anti depressants, and all most all of them will admit to smoking weed in their teens. Personally I think if your going to smoke weed it can be done safely after about 25 years of age, but an adolescent my be risking a lifetime of mental illness for a high that isn’t worth the price.

  48. Tokin' Terry on

    Jason you did not crap on Christians like I accused you, Sorry I was just wrong
    but I stand by the rest though Pastor man is overseeing OTHER researchers doing the fieldwork, including a squad of 30 youths going out into the street to parlez with other youths getting high . Not wired up like moneys in a lab- this is important real life dope culture exploration. ., So a pastor who is familiar with outreach is completely qualified to run this sort of project- What his team comes up with may well be looked at by a phd or mental health policy persons, and they can have a go at the results and so can you and me. so can anybody.

    lets wait and see what they come up with. Pot is not spring water and we all know it. If pot smoking messes with borderline teenage brains or not we better find this out.

  49. Anonymous on

    Harper needs to be careful or the consensus my turn against his wishes and realize that legalization would go further to solve and protect the availability of marijuana from getting in to hands of non adults. Would that not drive Harper crazy?

  50. Anonymous on

    555,000cdn would be better spent on what are the odds two neo-cons could be in the White House and Prime Minister of Canada at the same time. Harper could not call a full judicial inquiry into the Listeriosis deaths. How could any sane man believe there is an association with cannabis and schizophrenia. Such an endeavor is of a very dubious nature from the start. Harper is becoming a very dangerous man. This military thing he seems to be developing needs to be squashed right in the bud. Canada is not going to put up with this for much longer.

  51. Anonymous on

    psychology and religon together ? isnt that not like an oxy moron. isnt the lord and religion and the bible.. “kind of schizophrenic” jesus’s visions were sschizophrenic. so were his delusions of grnanduer. of course no doctors. in 2003 i had halucinations they blamed my drug use. it was just a natural thing. we deny these internal spiritual cosmic consciounses experiences that surround us and we in all cultures expreince in some way. the west has beene trapped in this matrix of lies. this false godly worship of rich people who play prented on movie screens in front of blue screen fake cgi scripted un real reality simulation like a drug.
    the idea of how we treat mental illness is absurd. you dont not get great treatment by the system. but madness is a good teacher of wisdom about living the imperanance of life. the now. learning to be in the now. the no time feeling. that one experiences on lsd . i experienced hat naturally june 20th or so 2003.
    it disturbs me that the police and the church are in charge
    of who is demeed mentally ill or sane. i mean by proxy if you were to record most church shows on sundays. you cuold prolly find a 100 people in audience and preachers who would be demeened mentally deranged. whole church history story. is full of satanitic like wayas of treating and torturing fellow man .
    its time we take back our minds and our lives nad quit living in there animal ffarm. we are not cattle for there control and exploit and control to make us slave away to eat and live and buy things we dont need. and all the distractions like tv and pop culture. pointless things like fashion . and all that bullshit hollywood celebrity god cult worship. i mean reality tv is so unreal. ever hyidiot wants his 15 seconds of humnilation on the tuber
    peace
    remember keep telling yourself
    its only a movie
    its only a movie
    only a movie
    only a movie only
    only a movie.. hhehe
    fuck the government and there nazi like fascist ideas of reality adn consciouness. man is not god and i feel deeply that as the last few 8 or 9 years has unravelled the check mate is comnig and the gates are being swung open and naturei s showing man just how small man raelly is . man finally has got to big for his britches and what some call god or allah or the source is just showing us its power whatever it is. i turely believe we do know not and will never know where we cmea from or what life is about.
    whats this all mean. materialism and capitalism is a failed expeirement
    it breeds ocd and obsessions and hording
    nad all this crap.;
    people dying for paper
    or because they dont have enough credits on a computer in some office somewhere

  52. Jacob Hunter on

    I would expect a qualified researcher, someone with a PhD and experience in mental health and drug policy researcher. You know, exactly the kind of individual who the Conservatives ignore in favour of unqualified individuals who share their ideological bent.

    How exactly did I “crap on christians”?

  53. Worm on

    Considering how many people have smoked pot and for how long throughout history you would think there would be alot more data to support this horse shit. Just like the gateway theory, how many people use hard drugs? I don’t think there is as many as pot smokers so there goes that idea. Reefer madness all over again.

    JUST SAY NOW!

  54. The Pothead on

    I think this is absolutely ridiculous. All their reasons for prohibition get shot down and they come up with a new crazy claim to justify prohibition; when will this end. Doing the study is not a bad idea, if its going to be a just study. You should not have a religious group doing scientific tests, for all we know they are going to weave their religious beliefs into the study to justify why cannabis should be illegal. Could it not just be the fact that there are a very large percentage of people with mental health issues and a extremely large amount of people that use cannabis, and that some of these people with mental issues happen to smoke it. I think the study should be done but use scientists that base their findings on science not religion.

  55. Anonymous on

    ” “It has been suggested that up to 80 per cent of youth who have had a psychotic episode were using cannabis. And that’s pretty shocking,” said Smith, who was filling in for Health Minister Leona Aglukkaq at news conference.”

    Better get your tin-foil beanies on folks the propaganda machine is revving up for another brain washing of the Canadian sheeple.

    Maybe 80% of youth who had psychotic episodes had used cannabis. That doesn’t mean cannabis caused the episode. Likely most if not all were using all sorts of substances to quiet the voices in their heads.

    Youth aren’t supposed to be using cannabis anyway and legalization and control will keep it away from youth and force them back to booze. That at least won’t foster psychotic episodes … right?

    “WINNIPEG – The Harper government is putting up $550,000 to gather research on marijuana use and mental illness.

    The money is part of Ottawa’s $30 million national anti-drug strategy announced in 2007.”

    30 million. Wasn’t that what the last federal election cost or was it $300 mil? Either way it’s a good down payment on an election to get rid of Harper and his right wing-nuts.

    I guess they figure if they put enough spin on their lies they may achieve lift-off.

    Douche bags! All of them.

  56. Tokin' Terry on

    Give it up Jason=

    if you are going to crap on Christians like you just did = you will have to let go of your precious ” God permitting all herb bearing seed” excerpt from the Christian Bible stoners lean so hard on for mainstream credibility//
    What has this guys’ religion or politics got to do with a study that hasn’t even started yet
    he is just overseeing the project same way as you oversee pot protests-

    are you Psychotic or something and take offense ? Who would b better as the boss of this study then if you don’t like this guy?
    Chris Bennet?
    David Malmo Levine?
    Jodie Emery ?
    Bud Oracle?
    any of the chronics in your building
    or the Motorcycle people across the street??

    really, what a bunch of Towlies most pot activists are these days